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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2160 on: August 08, 2022, 09:17:18 PM »
Thought about that but doesn’t explain it all. Streets like route 9, Clifton and other blocks that haven’t seen construction in years flooded like I’ve never seen before.
Which part of town hasn't seen construction in recent years?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2161 on: August 08, 2022, 09:33:47 PM »
Which part of town hasn't seen construction in recent years?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2162 on: August 08, 2022, 09:50:55 PM »
Animal Farm ie 14th ;)
Did it have abnormal flooding?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2164 on: August 08, 2022, 11:56:16 PM »
Our street turns into a lake every rain
So this rain took it from bad to worse and I think many streets are that way
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2165 on: August 09, 2022, 08:00:43 AM »
Which part of town hasn't seen construction in recent years?

Early in the rain I nearly got stuck at 10th/11th Madison and then at 10th Clifton. Nothing changed there construction wise.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2166 on: August 09, 2022, 08:42:08 AM »
Early in the rain I nearly got stuck at 10th/11th Madison and then at 10th Clifton. Nothing changed there construction wise.
They paved over a whole square block there
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2167 on: August 09, 2022, 09:39:23 AM »
They paved over a whole square block there

Ah great point forgot it got paved
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2168 on: August 09, 2022, 10:01:50 AM »
Ah great point forgot it got paved
I don't think there is an area in Lakewood that didn't have a significant area covered with impermeable surfaces in the past few years. Even 14th st has more houses and driveways than it had a few years ago. I just opened google street view to a random corner on 14th st and found a new-looking house. I looked back at the history and found that a few years ago it replaced a significantly smaller house with significantly less driveway space. Impermeable surfaces probably went from 30% lot coverage to 60%.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2169 on: August 09, 2022, 10:08:25 AM »
But the Engineers... they take care of all this....right?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2170 on: August 09, 2022, 10:24:40 AM »
But the Engineers... they take care of all this....right?
Of course! Get ready for all the traffic studies to take place on Friday Bein Hazmanims.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2171 on: August 09, 2022, 01:25:41 PM »
Eisemann prosecutors filed an appeal, and requested another 15 days to submit appeals brief. They want to overturn the ruling that tossed the convictions and called for a new trial.
Rabbi Eisemann's lawyer submitted a letter opposing an extension.

In the prosecutor's request letter, they wrote that they were busy with other cases and didn't have time to work on a brief. Eisemann's lawyer wrote that this is not an excuse. It's a 7-page letter, but here's the final two paragraphs:

"Mr. Eisemann has been laboring under this case for years... Had prosecutors fulfilled their basic constitutional obligations, Mr. Eisemann’s saga through the courts would have ended long ago. Now, when it is finally nearing its end, the state asks for more time. The deputy attorney general’s schedule is not more important than Mr. Eisemann’s interest in vindicating his name and getting his life back.

If the state wanted to appeal, it should have appealed in the time allotted. Having failed to do so, the Court should deny the state’s motion and allow the case to proceed to trial so that a new jury can hear from the bookkeeper who the state has so desperately tried to keep silent."


It's still likely that they will get their extension, as courts generally allow more time upon request.
Appeals court granted the extension, as was expected.

Also today, the trial judge denied a motion from prosecutors seeking to push off trial proceedings until after the appeal. Eisemann's lawyers wanted to be able to move ahead with discovery, and the judge agreed.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2172 on: August 10, 2022, 12:19:51 AM »
Appeals court granted the extension, as was expected.

Also today, the trial judge denied a motion from prosecutors seeking to push off trial proceedings until after the appeal. Eisemann's lawyers wanted to be able to move ahead with discovery, and the judge agreed.

So technically, the possibility exists, if the retrial moves faster than the prosecutors appeal, that Rabbi Eisemann can be aquited on all charges but the state will still be appalling the conviction from the prior trial that has since been overturned... 🤔

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2173 on: August 10, 2022, 01:06:47 AM »
So technically, the possibility exists, if the retrial moves faster than the prosecutors appeal, that Rabbi Eisemann can be aquited on all charges but the state will still be appalling the conviction from the prior trial that has since been overturned... 🤔
In all likelihood, if the appeal is not finished as the trial approaches, the judge will probably push it off. He explicitly noted that he's scheduling trial because the appeal will probably be finished before the trial date.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2174 on: August 10, 2022, 08:50:29 AM »
In all likelihood, if the appeal is not finished as the trial approaches, the judge will probably push it off. He explicitly noted that he's scheduling trial because the appeal will probably be finished before the trial date.

So it sounds like the judge is not expecting anything to come out of the prosecutors appeal.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2175 on: August 10, 2022, 08:54:36 AM »
So it sounds like the judge is not expecting anything to come out of the prosecutors appeal.
That's likely, but it's also possible that he sees the injustice that was done to Rabbi Eisemann and he agrees to allow the case to move forward so it shouldn't stall any longer.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2176 on: August 10, 2022, 09:10:40 AM »
That's likely, but it's also possible that he sees the injustice that was done to Rabbi Eisemann and he agrees to allow the case to move forward so it shouldn't stall any longer.
I question the tactics of having discovery start now. Most of the case happens in discovery. If that is already done by the time the appeals are complete then why would they not just have the trial too? If they need to restart the entire case then it seems more likely they will choose not to retry.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2177 on: August 10, 2022, 09:37:25 AM »
I question the tactics of having discovery start now. Most of the case happens in discovery. If that is already done by the time the appeals are complete then why would they not just have the trial too? If they need to restart the entire case then it seems more likely they will choose not to retry.
As part of discovery, prosecutors would have to turn over much of the backroom dealings in the prosecutor's office. In my opinion, pushing ahead with discovery may force the state to drop the case now, even before the appeal goes through, if they are scared to turn over any info.

That's just my assessment.

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