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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #240 on: May 23, 2016, 10:19:25 AM »
now even cross is bad.looks like the new 9 maybe fix it BEFORE it gets bad
All Cross neeeds is a turning lane onto James and it will be fine.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #241 on: May 23, 2016, 10:20:25 AM »
All Cross neeeds is a turning lane onto James and it will be fine.
How about Prospect onto Cross, that pretty bad too.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #242 on: May 23, 2016, 10:23:19 AM »
How about Prospect onto Cross, that pretty bad too.
Can't tell you since I have not experienced it. What is the exact issue? I would imagine it is the Left from Prospect onto Cross. THat would be helped by a turning lane on Cross to James and probably solved with a traffic light, but there would again need to be a turning lane Cross onto Prospect.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #243 on: May 23, 2016, 10:34:29 AM »
Can't tell you since I have not experienced it. What is the exact issue? I would imagine it is the Left from Prospect onto Cross. THat would be helped by a turning lane on Cross to James and probably solved with a traffic light, but there would again need to be a turning lane Cross onto Prospect.

The issue is a right onto cross mostly, it can get backed up all the way to prospect vines. It seems it only became really bad since williams started being closed on a regular basis. Turning left onto cross is usually not a big deal ppl are nice and let them through.
What im confused is why cross in both directions is only backed up till James, towards prospect it clearly just needs a turning lane onto james but the other direction makes no sense.
Where are you suggesting a traffic light, From prospect it wouldn't help the traffic would have no where to go?
A turning lane from cross onto prospect would help a little, but theres enough room there for ppl to get around those that are turning.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #244 on: May 23, 2016, 10:39:37 AM »


The plan is to add two left turning lanes to central

To central on the 9 or from central on to the 9?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #245 on: May 23, 2016, 10:49:50 AM »
The issue is a right onto cross mostly, it can get backed up all the way to prospect vines. It seems it only became really bad since williams started being closed on a regular basis. Turning left onto cross is usually not a big deal ppl are nice and let them through.
What im confused is why cross in both directions is only backed up till James, towards prospect it clearly just needs a turning lane onto james but the other direction makes no sense.
Where are you suggesting a traffic light, From prospect it wouldn't help the traffic would have no where to go?
A turning lane from cross onto prospect would help a little, but theres enough room there for ppl to get around those that are turning.

The real issue in that is that Williams has been closed almost every day for weeks on end, causing ridiculous traffic backups on 9 and Cross. I've tried calling the township and just been bounced around. Construction should be forced to happen at night, it's ridiculous that 9 is backed up to 4th st every afternoon to accommodate some private construction.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #246 on: May 23, 2016, 10:55:03 AM »
The real issue in that is that Williams has been closed almost every day for weeks on end, causing ridiculous traffic backups on 9 and Cross. I've tried calling the township and just been bounced around. Construction should be forced to happen at night, it's ridiculous that 9 is backed up to 4th st every afternoon to accommodate some private construction.
Late last week the police said they'll only close williams after 9:30 am when traffic slows down but latest 10:00, i don't know if they do that or not but doesnt seem to have helped at all

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #247 on: May 23, 2016, 10:57:11 AM »
Late last week the police said they'll only close williams after 9:30 am when traffic slows down but latest 10:00, i don't know if they do that or not but doesnt seem to have helped at all
Doesn't help much for the afternoon
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #248 on: May 23, 2016, 11:06:35 AM »
The issue is a right onto cross mostly, it can get backed up all the way to prospect vines. It seems it only became really bad since williams started being closed on a regular basis. Turning left onto cross is usually not a big deal ppl are nice and let them through.
What im confused is why cross in both directions is only backed up till James, towards prospect it clearly just needs a turning lane onto james but the other direction makes no sense.
Where are you suggesting a traffic light, From prospect it wouldn't help the traffic would have no where to go?
A turning lane from cross onto prospect would help a little, but theres enough room there for ppl to get around those that are turning.
If it is from the construction then there is not much to do. Detours cause traffic.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #249 on: May 23, 2016, 11:41:12 AM »
If it is from the construction then there is not much to do. Detours cause traffic.
So why is it only until James, once you pass the light it suddenly starts moving?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #250 on: May 23, 2016, 11:48:15 AM »
I find that the school buses on cross add a nice chunk to the traffic. Every bus stopping to cross the tracks stops slowing the traffic  even when the light is green.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #251 on: May 23, 2016, 11:52:06 AM »
http://hefkervelt.blogspot.com/2016/05/traffic-fixes-proposed-at-township.html?m=1
Seems that they're proposing a turning lane from cross onto james

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #252 on: May 23, 2016, 12:14:00 PM »
So why is it only until James, once you pass the light it suddenly starts moving?
Because there is nothing to back them up
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #253 on: May 23, 2016, 12:43:55 PM »
Because there is nothing to back them up
And until james? The amnt of cars turning onto farady is miniscule amd there's no where else anyone is turning to hold up the traffic... highly doubt the busses stopping by the tracks could be making such a backup...

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #254 on: May 23, 2016, 12:48:05 PM »
The traffic light itself backs things up when there is a high volume of cars.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #255 on: May 23, 2016, 01:04:33 PM »
The real issue in that is that Williams has been closed almost every day for weeks on end, causing ridiculous traffic backups on 9 and Cross. I've tried calling the township and just been bounced around. Construction should be forced to happen at night, it's ridiculous that 9 is backed up to 4th st every afternoon to accommodate some private construction.
The real issue is that WE keep building without adding sufficient infrastructure.(or coming up with such pathetic excuses that its a county/state road.=dont approve in the first place.) 

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #256 on: May 23, 2016, 01:15:17 PM »
The real issue is that WE keep building without adding sufficient infrastructure.(or coming up with such pathetic excuses that its a county/state road.=dont approve in the first place.)
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Instead of normal streets it became ok to build multiple dead end developments.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #257 on: May 23, 2016, 01:38:35 PM »
The real issue is that WE keep building without adding sufficient infrastructure.(or coming up with such pathetic excuses that its a county/state road.=dont approve in the first place.)
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This has been bothering me for a long time.

There are a few projects going up on prospect, another project on cross near the 9. What were/are they thinking? Why should they get approval to build in such areas?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #258 on: May 23, 2016, 01:47:05 PM »
Make your voice heard here: http://lakewoodsmartgrowth.blogspot.com/

[sarcasm font] I'm sure they'll take all valid feedback to heart!! [/end sarcasm font]

http://hefkervelt.blogspot.com/2016/05/new-website-to-address-lakewood-smart.html?m=1

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #259 on: May 23, 2016, 05:14:33 PM »
Make your voice heard here: http://lakewoodsmartgrowth.blogspot.com/

[sarcasm font] I'm sure they'll take all valid feedback to heart!! [/end sarcasm font]

http://hefkervelt.blogspot.com/2016/05/new-website-to-address-lakewood-smart.html?m=1

Looks like a nice blog...hope it remains a nice blog...any idea who is behind it?
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