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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3880 on: November 07, 2023, 07:26:10 PM »
Here are some other third-party websites that will carry the results. They sometimes have a drop of a delay, but they mix together the votes from both counties:

https://newjerseyglobe.com/fr/new-jersey-election-2023-results/
https://www.app.com/story/news/local/2023/11/06/election-day-2023-live-ocean-county-boe-general-election-race/71382346007/
https://decisiondeskhq.com/election-results-new-jersey-state-legislature-and-more/

ETA: Note that the Globe and DDHQ are partnering in this election, so the numbers will likely appear identical.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3881 on: November 07, 2023, 07:26:25 PM »
For those who want up-to-date election results, here are the websites for Ocean and for Monmouth Counties.

Remember, Schnall will be winning in Ocean and losing in Monmouth - you need to add up the numbers to get the real result.

Ocean: https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NJ/Ocean/119025/web.317647/#/summary
Monmouth: https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NJ/Monmouth/119047/web.317647/#/summary

The results should start coming in after 8:00. They usually dump the early voting numbers in one shot, and then each district as the district reports. This could take a while, because they have to let anyone who is there at 8:00 to finish voting. In a heavy turnout year, it could take some time for the line to finish.

If the turnout in Lakewood is much better than Monmouth, expect Schnall to appear to be losing for the first while, but it will even out as the Lakewood districts close up.
How about you save me watching and just post updates here as results come in?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3882 on: November 07, 2023, 07:28:10 PM »
How about you save me watching and just post updates here as results come in?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3883 on: November 07, 2023, 07:30:31 PM »
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3884 on: November 07, 2023, 07:35:22 PM »
An reliable insider who gets his data from those on the ground told me a few hours ago that the numbers are really not decisive in any way, and he thinks it may be a lot closer than he previously thought. I guess we'll know in the next hour or two. But if you are on the fence about voting now, it may be worthwhile to get to a polling station before 8, as your vote may actually make a differnce.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3885 on: November 07, 2023, 07:36:48 PM »
Only for DDF Premium users...  :P

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An reliable insider who gets his data from those on the ground told me a few hours ago that the numbers are really not decisive in any way, and he thinks it may be a lot closer than he previously thought. I guess we'll know in the next hour or two. But if you are on the fence about voting now, it may be worthwhile to get to a polling station before 8, as your vote may actually make a differnce.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3886 on: November 07, 2023, 07:47:31 PM »
Undermining the gedolei hatorah not Schnall

Why are the gedoilei hatorah so involved in this race? Seems pretty heated. Is there a new significant attempt to undermine the endorsements of the Rabbanim/RY?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3887 on: November 07, 2023, 08:16:45 PM »
Monmouth's early voting numbers just dropped


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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3888 on: November 07, 2023, 08:18:41 PM »
Now Ocean's early votes:

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3889 on: November 07, 2023, 08:21:10 PM »
Early voting shows VAAD candidates way ahead in Committee and School Board races:


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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3890 on: November 07, 2023, 08:26:30 PM »
Now Ocean's early votes:

Looks good so far

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3891 on: November 07, 2023, 08:30:11 PM »
If you listen to them - it sounds more like a religous cheshbon. As i said, sick irony.

Many of us grew up not understanding :

1. How there could have been a holocaust committed by an entire continent?

2. How could have there been a "Korach Va'dasoh".

In just the last few weeks, we have all had an unfortunate education that broadened our understanding.
Take a chill you are getting wwwaaaaayyyy too carried away.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3892 on: November 07, 2023, 08:32:40 PM »
I know it’s been talked about here many times,
But we Really have to figure out how to stop these Robo calls!
It’s not just annoying anymore,
 they’re going against everything we believe in when they go against Daas Torah
How about stopping the robocalls asking you to follow daas torah as well. I didn't need 20 phone calls today on top of the 15 text messages and all the calls for the last week.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3893 on: November 07, 2023, 08:39:23 PM »
Take a chill you are getting wwwaaaaayyyy too carried away.

Just paraphrasing R Elya Brudny.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3894 on: November 07, 2023, 08:41:38 PM »
Do these include mail in?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3895 on: November 07, 2023, 08:43:14 PM »
Early voting shows VAAD candidates way ahead in Committee and School Board races:


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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3896 on: November 07, 2023, 08:46:59 PM »
Do these include mail in?
Pretty sure that not

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3897 on: November 07, 2023, 08:49:45 PM »
Pretty sure that not
Yes, IIMN it does include main-ins. But not the ballots that are still in the mail. If it was postmarked today, it will still be counted.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3898 on: November 07, 2023, 08:52:08 PM »
currently in Monmouth
Thomson 9132
Schnall 4667

so thomson leading by 4500 which is counteracted by early numbers in ocean

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3899 on: November 07, 2023, 08:53:54 PM »
https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NJ/Ocean/119025/web.317647/#/detail/0011

- In Lakewood, with no Election Day numbers in, Avi Schnall leads Ned Thomson by 7,099 votes  but there is a long, long way to go.

- Lines still forming outside polling stations 15 minutes left. If you are inside you can vote after 8

LD 30 said to be a tight race

- Now the Lakewood Orthodox community made a concentrated early vote push when no such push existed in Monmouth. The share of Lakewood will decline in the final total, but by how much? Political Election Projections


- Analysis from Elections daily on the 3oth district:
"That is why the 30th holds influence. Schnall is not liberal by any means, and his candidacy is more for helping bring forward Lakewood’s agenda. Schnall realizes he will have more control over the majority than the minority and help with leading issues in Lakewood and the district, like roadway infrastructure and transportation. He will likely vote the party line but would likely break away on more àa issues such as codifying abortion rights. Schnall may play a decisive in some close votes, but the Democratic lead in the legislature will likely only require his vote on issues needing a 2/3 majority.

Conclusion
Today’s election will be a paramount test of the strength of religious politics and bloc voting. Suppose Schnall fails to win or even comes close. In that case, it will likely be a stark reminder that modern political history is changing and is starting to see polarization and partisan identification replace conventional factors like candidate strength and fundraising. Democratic leaders eagerly watch the 30th, with southern Jersey Democrats particularly keen on a Schnall win. No matter the outcome, the race should not be examined for cues of national elections. Lakewood is becoming solidly GOP on the state and national level, and if Schnall faces an enormous defeat, it can be assumed Lakewood is done voting for Democrats, period. However, a Schnall victory does not mean Lakewood will become competitive again for Democrats; it just means a viral candidate with institutional support can still have a shot.