The Future of Lakewood

[mookie]

You cannot assure anyone anything based on what you perceive as what should have been. You simply don't know.
I suggest you actually ask pp like R Berel Leifer, R O C Leiberman etc why they never entered Bmg with their shtreimals.

Just so I understand how this works, I cannot assure anything based on what I perceive but you can say I'm lying about my friend who lives right near yeshiva? But I'm pretty sure that if I asked either one of those Rabbis, neither would say the word takana.

[Ephcc90]

Maybe they do.

The books are unaudited so it means nothing to me either way.

I'm pretty sure that's not true. You think a bank would lend millions of dollars without an audit or at the very least a review?

[MarkS]

http://pdfs.citizenaudit.org/2014_06_EO/22-2137420_990_201308.pdf

Google the name of the school you are interested in searching for the 990
ie Lakewood Cheder 990
Bais Faiga 990

[avromie7]

Fyi: If you want to do the math the cheder took in $22,322,950 in 2014.

http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/22-2137420/lakewood-chedar-school.aspx

[yelped]

Again...I beg your forgiveness in advance but this thread answers all my questions by answering none of my questions. You see, what started as (I thought) a discussion of how to keep the original LW dream alive has immediately devolved into a Jackie Mason routine about Jews at a restaurant trying to figure out how much the guy makes.

Takke ein kemach ein Torah but when the discussion if money supplants the discussion if ideology then it is small wonder when that ideology is losing ground bgashmius (ein Torah ein kemach.)

I wonder where the real ideological Litvaks will go to begin anew  based on hashkafa and not on a business model.

Very good point.

[churnbabychurn]

Just so I understand how this works, I cannot assure anything based on what I perceive but you can say I'm lying about my friend who lives right near yeshiva? But I'm pretty sure that if I asked either one of those Rabbis, neither would say the word takana.

Let's get something clear.

Are you saying that your friend has been entering Bmg bottei medrash with a shtreimal for decades or not?
I'm telling you that he has not.

You can use the word hakpadah of R Shneiur if you prefer.

Obviously in today's PC world I doubt that the Roshei Yeshiva are still makpid. (But I can't be sure what you would be told if you actually sincerely asked them what to do..)

[Dawie]

I'm pretty sure that's not true. You think a bank would lend millions of dollars without an audit or at the very least a review?

according to page 12 it is audited

[Dawie]

Let's get something clear.

Are you saying that your friend has been entering Bmg bottei medrash with a shtreimal for decades or not?
I'm telling you that he has not.

You can use the word hakpadah of R Shneiur if you prefer.

Obviously in today's PC world I doubt that the Roshei Yeshiva are still makpid. (But I can't be sure what you would be told if you actually sincerely asked them what to do..)

There were very few "real" chassidim in reb schneurs time
and they either davened by Satmar or Kirshevsky
and if they needed to go into the "Old" BMG BM with a Striemel they did

[churnbabychurn]

http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/22-2137420/lakewood-chedar-school.aspx

Yeah, pretty decent income statement.
Let's help the Rabbeim!

[MarkS]

according to page 12 it is audited

Correct. In accordance with OMB Circular A-133, non-profit entities that receive over 500K in federal funds need to be audited.

[Dawie]

Yeah, pretty decent income statement.
Let's help the Rabbeim!

In a year that they built a building that is a very poor income statement

[churnbabychurn]

There were very few "real" chassidim in reb schneurs time
and they either davened by Satmar or Kirshevsky
and if they needed to go into the "Old" BMG BM with a Striemel they did

Ok I'm not fighting about this. I know the facts.
Habocher yivchar.

[Dawie]

Correct. In accordance with OMB Circular A-133, non-profit entities that receive over 500K in federal funds need to be audited.

and which line tells you that they got 500k in Federal funds

[MarkS]

[churnbabychurn]

and which line tells you that they got 500k in Federal funds

The grants are huge bh

[Freddie]

Bizarre to me that you guys are still talking about money and not ideology. It's like my comment was written in Chinese.

[TorontoGuy]

Bizarre to me that you guys are still talking about money and not ideology. It's like my comment was written in Chinese.

+1
New thread idea: Why and How Mosdos should pay their Rabbeim more.

[Freddie]

Let me spell it out for y'all. If there's nothing left to do but count the money then I question where the real talmidim of R' Shneur are.

[churnbabychurn]

Let me spell it out for y'all. If there's nothing left to do but count the money then I question where the real talmidim of R' Shneur are.

They're not here (on ddf) don't worry

[churnbabychurn]

+1
New thread idea: Why and How Mosdos should pay their Rabbeim more.

Yeah the whole Rabbeim raise issue should be another thread