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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #900 on: May 09, 2021, 12:50:18 AM »
Unless there is something I am unaware of I believe the latest flare up was due to SK massering on a yeshiva quite a drive from Lakewood. Are you more comfortable with mesirah because itís the big bad developers fault? Never mind that yeshivos, individuals, rabbanim, and chessed organizations are all targets.
Never said I was comfortable with it, I explicitly said I don't condone his behavior.

My point is that by getting distracted by a single rotting tree we are losing sight of the forest. Which is exactly what the greedy people want. We should all be on the same team here about this...and ignore the one bad apple on the team.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #901 on: May 09, 2021, 12:50:28 AM »
He didn't threaten me. He told me that he threatened someone else.
I remember the incident a little more clearly now. He didn't tell me that he threatened to maaser to authorities. He told me that he blackmailed something that he would post illegal activity done by the person online unless that person told him specific behind-the-scenes information that the person was privy to. The information pertained to closed-door sessions of a Lakewood government board.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #902 on: May 09, 2021, 12:51:06 AM »
What's this? Massered to whom? Everyone and their uncle knows about the basement apartments.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #903 on: May 09, 2021, 01:42:06 AM »
He told me that he blackmailed something that he would post illegal activity done by the person online unless that person told him specific behind-the-scenes information that the person was privy to. The information pertained to closed-door sessions of a Lakewood government board.
Thatís actually a crime, or perhaps multiple.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #904 on: May 09, 2021, 02:40:47 AM »
At the Yeshiva Orchos Chaim dinner it was announced they are giving a 10K raise for Rebbeim! With the calls for Raising Rebeim salaries OC took the initiative. Rabbi Ozeri who brought the plight to the public was the guest speaker the anouncment was made before his speech. This puts pressure on other mosdos to follow. Question is if they will also raise tuition.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #905 on: May 09, 2021, 03:28:45 AM »
Never said I was comfortable with it, I explicitly said I don't condone his behavior.

My point is that by getting distracted by a single rotting tree we are losing sight of the forest. Which is exactly what the greedy people want. We should all be on the same team here about this...and ignore the one bad apple on the team.

It gives context to this
https://jnews.us/litvaks-attack-chasidim/
This is terrible
Nothing to do with Litvaks attacking chassidim.
It may be a distraction and one can blame the adults and/or the kids but the fact is that the situation is unfortunately ripe for trouble as long as he continues to masser.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #906 on: May 09, 2021, 08:41:00 AM »
It gives context to thisNothing to do with Litvaks attacking chassidim.
It may be a distraction and one can blame the adults and/or the kids but the fact is that the situation is unfortunately ripe for trouble as long as he continues to masser.
Oh, that article is beyond stupid and I'm sure that website is full of other garbage, too (probably anti-vaxxers stuff, etc.), but no excuses for a Jewish mob.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #907 on: May 09, 2021, 08:46:21 AM »
Two things could be right at the same time.

1. It is an evil act to publicize information that can negatively impact your community, and you deserve to be mobbed.
2. It is wrong for your child or student's chinuch to allow them to join a mob, for any reason.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #908 on: May 09, 2021, 08:50:10 AM »
Two things could be right at the same time.

1. It is an evil act to publicize information that can negatively impact your community, and you deserve to be mobbed.
2. It is wrong for your child or student's chinuch to allow them to join a mob, for any reason.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #909 on: May 09, 2021, 09:02:50 AM »
2. It is wrong for your child or student's chinuch to allow them to join a mob, for any reason.

Wrong enough to have a letter signed by all the RY, rabbonim, and roshei mosdos, or is that reserved for special occasions?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #910 on: May 09, 2021, 09:14:19 AM »
Wrong enough to have a letter signed by all the RY, rabbonim, and roshei mosdos, or is that reserved for special occasions?
I would venture to say that they are not aware of this. I was not aware of it until I saw it here, and I do go on news websites. This story did not penetrate the mainstream hock cycle yet, as far as I'm aware.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #911 on: May 09, 2021, 09:33:19 AM »
Wrong enough to have a letter signed by all the RY, rabbonim, and roshei mosdos, or is that reserved for special occasions?
Why would this require a letter? This requires a few vilde kids (or parents) to have a little bit of mentchlichkeit knocked into them.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #912 on: May 09, 2021, 10:05:18 AM »
Two things could be right at the same time.

1. It is an evil act to publicize information that can negatively impact your community, and you deserve to be mobbed.
2. It is wrong for your child or student's chinuch to allow them to join a mob, for any reason.

And 3) however bad 2 is, and it is horrendous, it's absolutely abominable to publish pictures of said kids and chastise them online

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #913 on: May 09, 2021, 10:09:04 AM »
And 3) however bad 2 is, and it is horrendous, it's absolutely abominable to publish pictures of said kids and chastise them online

Basically, ESH
They were likely published by the victim/moser so it really goes beck to numbers 1 and 2

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #914 on: May 09, 2021, 10:15:45 AM »
10K is nothing.
I wonder if the rabbeim agree that it is nothing.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #915 on: May 20, 2021, 05:03:46 PM »
https://www.chabadgn.com/templates/blog/post.asp?aid=2456346&PostID=95712&p=1
Anybody able to please put the actual article here for those of us that canít access the website?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #916 on: May 20, 2021, 05:21:42 PM »
Brought to you by the newly released Lakewood Filter. Which blocks all Chabad.org we addresses after the recent Lag Baomer debacle.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #917 on: May 20, 2021, 05:27:49 PM »
He doesnít know the trick. You have to say the 12 pesukim to get it to open.

Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #918 on: May 20, 2021, 08:59:59 PM »
Perfect traffic solution

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #919 on: May 20, 2021, 09:24:02 PM »
Perfect traffic solution
Yeah, someone did that going from james onto rt 9 today. Closest I've ever been to an accident in Lakewood so far (besides getting bumped at a red light and finding dents in my car after being in a parking lot).
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