The Future of Lakewood

[grodnoking]

At the Yeshiva Orchos Chaim dinner it was announced they are giving a 10K raise for Rebbeim! With the calls for Raising Rebeim salaries OC took the initiative. Rabbi Ozeri who brought the plight to the public was the guest speaker the anouncment was made before his speech. This puts pressure on other mosdos to follow. Question is if they will also raise tuition.

Many of the people buying the big houses started out in kollel and are now working, but they want to stay in the community they're raising their families in. Many Flatbush emigrees came to join their children. However, this all started from the yeshiva and kollel. Lakewood is no longer the sole post EY option, and multiple other yeshivos are growing. With the housing prices as prohibitive as they are for starting yeshiva couples, what's gonna bring the next generation?

Yeshiva owned houses. Like darchai, only here it'll be saving so much more being there will be no 7k land tax.
Once they do that there will be no reason to raise salaries

[grodnoking]

As I posted below, the large yeshivos should be flush with extra cash. This raise is proof. It's about time they shared some with the rebbeim.
I'm sure they will attempt to squeeze parents that could be squeezed though.

Lets just for pretend say that everyone is giving 5k to yeshiva a year. With a horrible 1:10 ratio staff to student (its probably a smaller ratio) that is only 50k to each teacher. Before the overhead. So lets say 40k pp. This is a very optimistic scenario.  Now where do you make money?

[churnbabychurn]

Lets just for pretend say that everyone is giving 5k to yeshiva a year. With a horrible 1:10 ratio staff to student (its probably a smaller ratio) that is only 50k to each teacher. Before the overhead. So lets say 40k pp. This is a very optimistic scenario.  Now where do you make money?

One rebbe for ~28 students and one pt English teacher.
That's ~140 k

[good sam]

If the prices get too high and prevent the next generation from moving in, then great,
that will help lower the house prices for current residents.

Reminds me of Yogi Berra- "nobody goes there, it's too crowded."

[grodnoking]

One rebbe for ~28 students and one pt English teacher.
That's ~140 k

Ha. Other hanhala members and secretaries. And the English teaches need to get paid alot better than rabbis or they wont show up.

[churnbabychurn]

Ha. Other hanhala members and secretaries. And the English teaches need to get paid alot better than rabbis or they wont show up.

I'm not sure if you are realizing that if a school has only 4 parallel classes and only 20k per class goes to overhead. (Ie hanhala, support staff, utilities) we are at 720k.

We didn't even touch upon the many grants that they get.

[Super Speed]

Ha. Other hanhala members and secretaries. And the English teaches need to get paid alot better than rabbis or they wont show up.

English teachers do not get paid more than Rabbaim. Fact.

[Adam101]

English teachers do not get paid more than Rabbaim. Fact.

+1000

[grodnoking]

English teachers do not get paid more than Rabbaim. Fact.

I stand corrected

[semper fi]

English teachers do not get paid more than Rabbaim. Fact.

Proportionally for the anount of hours they work they do get paid more.

[grodnoking]

Proportionally for the anount of hours they work they do get paid more.

Just did the math. If you are including the work it involves out of school Maybe.

[sharkky]

English teachers do not get paid more than Rabbaim. Fact.

+1000

Proportionally for the anount of hours they work they do get paid more.

how much do english teachers get paid?

[Adam101]

how much do english teachers get paid?

Every school is different

[churnbabychurn]

how much do english teachers get paid?

How much do rebbeim get paid?
I'm imagining 65k + free tuition for their kids (10-25k value)

[MarkS]

How much do rebbeim get paid?
I'm imagining 65k + free tuition for their kids (10-25k value)

Hahaha ha.  You need to listen to Rabbi Ozeri's speech from the Agudah convention.  Keep in mind, he is talking about NY and I imagine salaries are lower here.