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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #390 on: August 24, 2016, 03:15:50 PM »
Huh? You totally missed my point.
I have no problem with chassidim moving in.
My problem is that it's being a sanz community, excluding other people.


BTW, I totally get the non Jews not wanting the Jews to take over their neighborhoods. Look what we did to Lakewood. It's a congestion nightmare. Also we stick to our own, who wants neighbors that don't socialize with them and only socializes with their own kind.
So go buy a house in thier development. I'm sure if you gave it a try they'll let you buy, or if not with out to much work you can force them to sell.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #391 on: August 24, 2016, 03:16:44 PM »
Huh? You totally missed my point.
I have no problem with chassidim moving in.
My problem is that it's being a sanz community, excluding other people.


BTW, I totally get the non Jews not wanting the Jews to take over their neighborhoods. Look what we did to Lakewood. It's a congestion nightmare. Also we stick to our own, who wants neighbors that don't socialize with them and only socializes with their own kind.
so you feel that Lakewood is a chutzpah and now Sanz went and had that same chutzpah back to Lakewood,

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #392 on: August 24, 2016, 03:19:39 PM »
so you feel that Lakewood is a chutzpah and now Sanz went and had that same chutzpah back to Lakewood,
No. If Lakewood would have opened up "Kiryas Jews" it would be a chutzpa.
What don't you understand?!


Theyre opening up a community for Sanzers, that I am not welcome to, and I'm gonna have to sit in traffic for them  And they're gonna bloodsuck the infrastructure that was built by litvaks. Disgusting!

You wanna build houses for everyone? Go right ahead. Don't build sect specific communities!
« Last Edit: August 24, 2016, 03:28:27 PM by Baruch »
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #393 on: August 24, 2016, 03:29:54 PM »
So go buy a house in thier development. I'm sure if you gave it a try they'll let you buy, or if not with out to much work you can force them to sell.
The point is their coming to a community that was built by livaks. And opening inside of it a community exclusive for Sanzers.
If I can fight and get in is beside the point.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #394 on: August 24, 2016, 03:40:21 PM »
The point is their coming to a community that was built by livaks. And opening inside of it a community exclusive for Sanzers.
If I can fight and get in is beside the point.
Can you explain a little better what your issue is? if you want to live in the community I'm sure you'll be able to. you want them to live apart from each other just so they can't be a tight-knit community?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #395 on: August 24, 2016, 04:03:29 PM »
They are marketing it that way because they want the people to come. I'm sure they'll sell to anyone no problem.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #396 on: August 24, 2016, 05:07:08 PM »
No. If Lakewood would have opened up "Kiryas Jews" it would be a chutzpa.
What don't you understand?!


Theyre opening up a community for Sanzers, that I am not welcome to, and I'm gonna have to sit in traffic for them  And they're gonna bloodsuck the infrastructure that was built by litvaks. Disgusting!

You wanna build houses for everyone? Go right ahead. Don't build sect specific communities!
BMG builds plenty of tax free homes for their people only.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #397 on: August 24, 2016, 05:26:23 PM »
BMG builds plenty of tax free homes for their people only.
such as?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #398 on: August 24, 2016, 07:11:25 PM »
They are marketing it that way because they want the people to come. I'm sure they'll sell to anyone no problem.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #399 on: August 24, 2016, 07:24:48 PM »
They are marketing it that way because they want the people to come. I'm sure they'll sell to anyone no problem.
Oh I'm suuuuure. Nooooo problem
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #400 on: August 24, 2016, 09:54:16 PM »
Let me tell you how I feel when driving by lawn signs that say "Tom's River strong" - (aka Jews stay in the gettho).
I feel like I'm almost wearing a yellow star.

It is crazy but surreal that in the great USA we have NO JEW streets.

Noone is even paying attention imho.
I just drove by a couple of these today.  Was tempted to go ask if their selling ;D

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #401 on: August 24, 2016, 10:04:37 PM »
Let me tell you how I feel when driving by lawn signs that say "Tom's River strong" - (aka Jews stay in the gettho).
I feel like I'm almost wearing a yellow star.

It is crazy but surreal that in the great USA we have NO JEW streets.

Noone is even paying attention imho.
Same as "Preserve Ramapo" in Monsey.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #402 on: August 24, 2016, 10:57:48 PM »
Same as "Preserve Ramapo" in Monsey.
Yup.

And the standard mantra that ppl say
"Well I understand them cuz Jews have large families and strange customs etc" doesn't make it any better.

Is it now ok that Jews were herded into ghettos not too long ago? Do you "understand" the anti semites??

The hatred is obviously because we stick it in their eyes (McMansions, political power...) instead of laying low.. vd"l

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #403 on: August 24, 2016, 11:48:27 PM »
Yup.

And the standard mantra that ppl say
"Well I understand them cuz Jews have large families and strange customs etc" doesn't make it any better.

Is it now ok that Jews were herded into ghettos not too long ago? Do you "understand" the anti semites??

The hatred is obviously because we stick it in their eyes (McMansions, political power...) instead of laying low.. vd"l

/Rant

+75%, McMansions help give them an excuse but the hatred is there already.

My other point is that someone who says that it's 100% wrong for the non jews to not want the jews to move in, can't be upset that the chasidim are moving in. It would simply be hypocritical.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #404 on: August 25, 2016, 12:15:52 AM »
It's called gentrification. While not in its classical form all of the demographic shifts in towns and neighborhoods are a form of gentrification. Once the momentum is there, there's nothing to stop it. The big difference for us is that we are much more community dependent than Goyim are. We need local schools to match השקפה, and more importantly we need some basic institutions within WALKING distance. All of which is why frum yidden are seen moving into towns and neighborhoods as a herd. Which others can perceive as threatening.

However, when the gentrification works the other way,  as someone living in such a community, I can tell you that the main concern is affordability for the next generation and for like minded people, and second concern is the overall atmosphere of the community.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2016, 12:22:00 AM by ExGingi »
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