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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #405 on: August 25, 2016, 01:00:58 AM »
Let me tell you how I feel when driving by lawn signs that say "Tom's River strong" - (aka Jews stay in the gettho).
I feel like I'm almost wearing a yellow star.

It is crazy but surreal that in the great USA we have NO JEW streets.

Noone is even paying attention imho.
Look who's talking, @CBC, with all due respect, you sound just like them and have the same inner hatred towards one group of jews, just like they have towards all of us - pretty obvious from your posts every time you bump this thread.
It's a huge chutzpa. Chasiddim came to Lakewood, which was a welcoming Litveshe town. And now they make chassidic exclusive communities inside Lakewood.

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Welcoming?? have a look at page 1 in this thread - from our dear cbc
Just to clear up the shtreimal questions. Up until ~ 15 years ago there was an (un)official takana in Bmg not to bring a shtreimal into the Beis medrash.
The effect of this was that for the most part, people only wore shtreimals at home, Bmg was the center of the community.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #406 on: August 25, 2016, 01:21:46 AM »


Look who's talking, @CBC.
Welcoming?? have a look at page 1 in this thread - from our dear cbc

That's hardly proof.  He was stating fact.  For all you know cbc wears a shtreimel

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #407 on: August 25, 2016, 04:22:56 AM »
This discussion is all well and good but who's gonna address the real elephant in the room in respect to the future of Lakewood?

I'm talking about the fact that the Chief Rabbi of New York got cramp-inducing shilshul from a week-old mac and cheese at Seasons. Who's dealing with that?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #408 on: August 25, 2016, 06:23:49 AM »
I'm talking about the fact that the Chief Rabbi of New York got cramp-inducing shilshul from a week-old mac and cheese at Seasons. Who's dealing with that?
Can we please get back to the racist attitudes? I love this thread.  :)
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #409 on: August 25, 2016, 07:30:55 AM »
Look who's talking, @CBC, with all due respect, you sound just like them and have the same inner hatred towards one group of jews, just like they have towards all of us - pretty obvious from your posts every time you bump this thread.Welcoming?? have a look at page 1 in this thread - from our dear cbc
Ok, please link specific post that reveal "my inner hatred" il be able to better respond.

As for this one ,@ thaber took care of it. Fyi I wear a פלאטשיגע ביבר היט

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #410 on: August 25, 2016, 08:33:44 AM »
Ok, please link specific post that reveal "my inner hatred" il be able to better respond.

As for this one ,@ thaber took care of it. Fyi I wear a פלאטשיגע ביבר היט

Now everything makes sense.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #411 on: August 25, 2016, 10:45:09 AM »
I am probably the only one here who lived in Lakewood over 30 years ago. Lakewood was very welcoming to chassidim.
There weren't that many. Rav Osher Chaim Lieberman was 1 of the 4 poskim in Yeshiva. The streimal policy is overblown. The Chassidim were loved and respected members of the community.

Lakewood believe it or not used to be a lovely peaceful town.



I have nothing against chassidim moving here

My only problem was creating a chassidic exclusive community.

If the Litvaks that originally occupied Lakewood wouldn't have been Ahavas Chinam type people, the Chassidim would have never came. (Just like there has yet to be a Litvak in KJ).
 
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #412 on: August 25, 2016, 11:03:13 AM »
I am probably the only one here who lived in Lakewood over 30 years ago. Lakewood was very welcoming to chassidim.
There weren't that many. Rav Osher Chaim Lieberman was 1 of the 4 poskim in Yeshiva. The streimal policy is overblown. The Chassidim were loved and respected members of the community.

Lakewood believe it or not used to be a lovely peaceful town.



I have nothing against chassidim moving here

My only problem was creating a chassidic exclusive community.

If the Litvaks that originally occupied Lakewood wouldn't have been Ahavas Chinam type people, the Chassidim would have never came. (Just like there has yet to be a Litvak in KJ).
 

They have indeed been very welcoming and therefore I promise you that you can buy in any development.

P.S. I'm not going to go into what it's said that the Roshei Yeshiva sent to Satmar after they started planning their development a while ago.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #413 on: August 25, 2016, 11:26:57 AM »
The streimal policy is overblown
What do you mean by overblown?
Interesting that I have yet to hear of any community or yeshivah with a similar policy the other way around, not even an overblown one.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #414 on: August 25, 2016, 11:32:07 AM »
P.S. I'm not going to go into what it's said that the Roshei Yeshiva sent to Satmar after they started planning their development a while ago.
What did they send them?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #415 on: August 25, 2016, 11:37:03 AM »
What did they send them?
He's repeating hearsay that he doesn't want to get into,  so I'm sure he won't answer.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #416 on: August 25, 2016, 11:38:55 AM »


Interesting that I have yet to hear of any community or yeshivah with a similar policy the other way around, not even an overblown one.
ha,  try moving to KJ or NS and wearing jeans and a t-shirt.


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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #417 on: August 25, 2016, 11:51:27 AM »
He's repeating hearsay that he doesn't want to get into,  so I'm sure he won't answer.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #418 on: August 25, 2016, 12:03:12 PM »
ha,  try moving to KJ or NS and wearing jeans and a t-shirt.
Forget about jeans and T-shirt. How about a developer setting up a development for Yeshivish crowd in KJ or NS, would that fly?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #419 on: August 25, 2016, 12:12:36 PM »
What do you mean by overblown?
Interesting that I have yet to hear of any community or yeshivah with a similar policy the other way around, not even an overblown one.
It is overblown. It had to do with tzuras hayeshiva, and it wasn't official policy. AND it came from Rav Aharon, so be careful when accusing it to be a שנאה thing
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