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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #720 on: April 28, 2021, 02:14:01 PM »
As far as I know, the robocall is from the people who want it banned.
Even robo calls in ch don’t sound like that.
You know or are you hoping that’s what happened?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #722 on: April 28, 2021, 02:51:33 PM »
I did too, and it did.
So at this point I say more power to those who worked to get the event banned.

Do you think any differently now that you see the lengths people will go to in order to get this banned? Makes me wonder what the RY were told about it.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #723 on: April 28, 2021, 03:01:07 PM »
https://twitter.com/LakewoodScoop/status/1387475856990277634
Do you think any differently now that you see the lengths people will go to in order to get this banned? Makes me wonder what the RY were told about it.
Is it not true that it's being organized by Chabad, or are these people just exaggerating it?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #724 on: April 28, 2021, 03:05:40 PM »
Is it not true that it's being organized by Chabad, or are these people just exaggerating it?
if "rebbi shlita melech hamoshiach" is just exageratign "chabad" then yea

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #725 on: April 28, 2021, 03:06:34 PM »
Do you think any differently now that you see the lengths people will go to in order to get this banned? Makes me wonder what the RY were told about it.
probably the same mistruths they said when the bain hazmanim concert was banned

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #726 on: April 28, 2021, 03:14:29 PM »
probably the same mistruths they said when the bain hazmanim concert was banned

Does there come a point where people question the motives of the people spreading the mistruths? How do these people still have access to Rabbonim and RY to get signatures on their agendas?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #728 on: April 28, 2021, 03:20:53 PM »
So it wasn't a yellow flag operation, it was a false flag thing
Thats if you trust TLS
They happen to be a sponsor....

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #729 on: April 28, 2021, 03:26:52 PM »
Thats if you trust TLS
They happen to be a sponsor....

What makes more sense to you, that meshichistim are trying to make a rally in Lakewood and have an agenda to indoctrinate the youth of Lakewood in the belief that the Rebbe is Moshiach, or that people don't want a Chabad-backed rally so they're saying, "it's the meshichistim!"?
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The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #730 on: April 28, 2021, 03:29:48 PM »
What makes more sense to you, that meshichistim are trying to make a rally in Lakewood and have an agenda to indoctrinate the youth of Lakewood in the belief that the Rebbe is Moshiach, or that people don't want a Chabad-backed rally so they're saying, "it's the meshichistim!"?
Occam's razor is permitted during sefira?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #731 on: April 28, 2021, 03:31:07 PM »
Occam's razor is permitted during sefira?

Lag Ba'omer related, should be fine. The irony of this happening during sfira....
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #732 on: April 28, 2021, 03:31:14 PM »
The Robo call I got didn’t mention the above but it did end off with “make sure to be there to join in the army of Hashem”

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #733 on: April 28, 2021, 03:32:01 PM »
What makes more sense to you, that meshichistim are trying to make a rally in Lakewood and have an agenda to indoctrinate the youth of Lakewood in the belief that the Rebbe is Moshiach, or that people don't want a Chabad-backed rally so they're saying, "it's the meshichistim!"?
The Robo call can definitely be a fake, but it doesn’t mean that there aren’t people trying to bring Lubavitch to lkwd.....

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #734 on: April 28, 2021, 03:37:04 PM »
The Robo call can definitely be a fake, but it doesn’t mean that there aren’t people trying to bring Lubavitch to lkwd.....
I mean literally every other chasidus on the planet now has a base in Lakewood.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #735 on: April 28, 2021, 03:38:14 PM »
I mean literally every other chasidus on the planet now has a base in Lakewood.
So how many fires and concerts do you get? :)

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #736 on: April 28, 2021, 03:39:47 PM »
The Robo call can definitely be a fake, but it doesn’t mean that there aren’t people trying to bring Lubavitch to lkwd.....

First of all, Lubavitch is already in Lakewood. Second, if that's a real concern, it's very easy for the powers-that-be to get involved to ensure the content of such an event is pre-approved. Third, of all the things that go down in Lakewood, Lubavitch shouldn't be the biggest concern. If we're still at a point in life where Lubavitch is our biggest fear... I got nothing.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #737 on: April 28, 2021, 03:46:17 PM »
I mean literally every other chasidus on the planet now has a base in Lakewood.
Right, that’s definitely one side of the argument but the establishment possibly doesn’t want them in lkwd for hashkafa reasons 🤷🏻‍♂️
The reasons go back decades and have nothing to go with other chisidusses moving to lkwd

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #738 on: April 28, 2021, 03:57:19 PM »
Right, that’s definitely one side of the argument but the establishment possibly doesn’t want them in lkwd for hashkafa reasons 🤷🏻‍♂️
The reasons go back decades and have nothing to go with other chisidusses moving to lkwd

In my utterly worthless opinion, anyone who has no problem relying on Chabad for a minyan or kosher food anywhere around the world, but has an issue with a Lubavitcher in their neighborhood, needs to do a cheshbon hanefesh.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #739 on: April 28, 2021, 04:12:37 PM »
In my utterly worthless opinion, anyone who has no problem relying on Chabad for a minyan or kosher food anywhere around the world, but has an issue with a Lubavitcher in their neighborhood, needs to do a cheshbon hanefesh.

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What’s wrong with loving chabad Jews for who they are and eating their shechita but not wanting your kids who have a different mesorah to hear about doing mitzvos to make the rebbe proud?