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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1020 on: June 15, 2021, 11:15:08 PM »
What's Jewish about putting windows of houses facing each other, 5 feet from each other, and driveways sticking into other people's houses? What happened to מה טובו אוהליך יעקב and the countless takanas of Chazal against obstructing other people's views?

Yeah. I'm sure Jews in Warsaw and the LES lived less crowded. Not

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1021 on: June 16, 2021, 12:39:22 AM »
Jewish life is booming. Amazing.

Booming. Smashing. Crashing. Whatever the term, it's mamash beautiful that Lakewood has the most unsafe roads in NJ. Also 99% of Lakewooders have way too much free time on their hands. Baruch Hashem a simple 2 minute car ride can keep us entertained for a couple hours.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1022 on: June 16, 2021, 01:33:05 AM »
Yeah. I'm sure Jews in Warsaw and the LES lived less crowded. Not
So we should strive to live in a ghetto?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1023 on: June 16, 2021, 06:16:58 AM »
Yeah. I'm sure Jews in Warsaw and the LES lived less crowded. Not
You're advocating for ghetto conditions?!?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1024 on: June 16, 2021, 06:37:14 AM »
Didn't know there was a ghetto prewar.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1026 on: June 16, 2021, 11:25:23 AM »
What's Jewish about putting windows of houses facing each other, 5 feet from each other, and driveways sticking into other people's houses? What happened to מה טובו אוהליך יעקב and the countless takanas of Chazal against obstructing other people's views?
Some of the new projects here are building like that too. Disgusting.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1027 on: June 16, 2021, 11:41:46 AM »
Jewish life is booming. Amazing.

+1, but that doesn’t need to preclude using a level of seichel in how to manage it.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1029 on: June 16, 2021, 01:14:27 PM »
In Warsaw?
*Ghetto-like conditions*

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1030 on: June 16, 2021, 01:19:52 PM »
Didn't know there was a ghetto prewar.

The word Ghetto has nothing to do with WWII, its origins are in Venice Italy, there was a copper foundry in the area the Jews were confined in (starting just over 500 years ago).

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1031 on: June 16, 2021, 01:53:03 PM »
The word Ghetto has nothing to do with WWII, its origins are in Venice Italy, there was a copper foundry in the area the Jews were confined in (starting just over 500 years ago).

The word "ghetto" also has nothing to do with this conversation. The point being made was that we have lived in overcrowded cities for thousands of years. Having a view or windows that don't face anyone else's windows weren't options for most of our history.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1032 on: June 16, 2021, 03:46:44 PM »
The word "ghetto" also has nothing to do with this conversation. The point being made was that we have lived in overcrowded cities for thousands of years. Having a view or windows that don't face anyone else's windows weren't options for most of our history.
Yeah the school bus traffic in those towns must have been CRAZY!
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1033 on: June 16, 2021, 03:58:00 PM »
Yeah the school bus traffic in those towns must have been CRAZY!

Not what he was addressing with his post.

I don't get the whole thing. As long as people's CBA says Lakewood is worth living in despite more and more traffic, they'll continue to add to it. Eventually it will get to a point where it's no longer worth it, and either people will take control over the decision making process, or they'll leave.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1034 on: June 16, 2021, 04:04:33 PM »
Not what he was addressing with his post.

I don't get the whole thing. As long as people's CBA says Lakewood is worth living in despite more and more traffic, they'll continue to add to it. Eventually it will get to a point where it's no longer worth it, and either people will take control over the decision making process, or they'll leave.
What about the people already living there?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1035 on: June 16, 2021, 04:06:00 PM »
As long as people's CBA

Which people? And what about the people who wouldn't move there under current circumstances, but already set down roots?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1036 on: June 16, 2021, 04:31:29 PM »
What about the people already living there?
Which people? And what about the people who wouldn't move there under current circumstances, but already set down roots?

You mean the people who've lived there for the last 60 years? Or the people who have continued to add to the traffic over the past 50 years? Or the people on the boards who approved the projects? Or the people who elected those boards? Or the people who knew the whole system was corrupt and chose to ignore it and live there anyway? Or the people who chose to fight the corruption, failed, and still made a CBA to stay?

I don't mean to sound insensitive. If it was happening in my town, it would definitely bother me more than a little. It's maddening, but things don't happen in a bubble. I grew up with a family whose parents grew up in Lakewood in the 50's-70's. Hearing them talk about the radical changes in the 90's and 00's... ein davar chadash tachas hashemesh. Lather, rinse, repeat.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1037 on: June 16, 2021, 04:51:34 PM »
Or the people who elected those boards?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1038 on: June 17, 2021, 12:31:05 AM »
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1039 on: June 17, 2021, 10:09:16 AM »
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