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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1320 on: October 28, 2021, 08:03:52 PM »
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1321 on: October 28, 2021, 09:38:02 PM »
On the preview voting ballot I got in the mail there are 3 questions we have to vote for. 2 from state one local. Out of all things that's what they want to vote on? Who picks what to vote for?

The local question of the firetruck makes more sense.
 

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1322 on: October 28, 2021, 10:53:45 PM »
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=59801.msg2510746#msg2510746

I might be opening a can of worms here (and said can might have been opened many times in this thread, but I'm not often here), but......

Why is this the politicians' fault?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1323 on: October 28, 2021, 10:56:08 PM »
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=59801.msg2510746#msg2510746

I might be opening a can of worms here (and said can might have been opened many times in this thread, but I'm not often here), but......

Why is this the politicians' fault?
Hmmm. Before I answer the question, I have one first.

Why did you assume it's about Lakewood?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1324 on: October 28, 2021, 10:57:19 PM »
Hmmm. Before I answer the question, I have one first.

Why did you assume it's about Lakewood?

The fact that you literally wrote "Lakewood" may have been a clue
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1325 on: October 28, 2021, 10:57:35 PM »

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1326 on: October 28, 2021, 10:59:01 PM »
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=59801.msg2510746#msg2510746

I might be opening a can of worms here (and said can might have been opened many times in this thread, but I'm not often here), but......

Why is this the politicians' fault?
They rubber stamped any and every development plan that came in front of them. They passed a Master Plan which is horrific. And so on and so forth.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1327 on: October 28, 2021, 11:00:16 PM »
So to answer your question in a simplistic way (I don't have two hours to type ALL the backstory), the politicians currently in office have approved way more density than the township's zoning map allows for, which means that there will inevitably be traffic. Other candidates have promised to build only what the township's original Master Plan allows for (which has been designed with the road infrastructure and the traffic load in mind).

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1328 on: October 28, 2021, 11:02:20 PM »
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=59801.msg2510746#msg2510746

I might be opening a can of worms here (and said can might have been opened many times in this thread, but I'm not often here), but......

Why is this the politicians' fault?
The zoning board and planning board are the decision makers when it comes to approving new housing/buildings/etc.

The zoning board members and planning board members are appointed by our local elected officials. They are essentially puppets of the elected officials. The elected officials only appoint those who align with what they want.

Therefore, if we want change, we need to vote in politicians who will care about the residents , not about developers (who slip them money under the table to approve projects that cause severe overcrowding/traffic)

On a deeper level, our local elected officials are our representatives for anything that needs to be accomplished with the county and the state. Many roads in Lakewood need to be widened or need traffic lights, but they require county/state approval. The local politicians are not very good at representing us with petitioning the state with our needs (and that's putting it nicely).

There's a lot more to it. I'm sure others can expound, but that's the gist of it.


 

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1329 on: October 28, 2021, 11:03:03 PM »
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1330 on: October 28, 2021, 11:04:29 PM »
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1331 on: October 28, 2021, 11:05:17 PM »
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1332 on: October 28, 2021, 11:11:40 PM »
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1333 on: October 28, 2021, 11:34:24 PM »
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=59801.msg2510746#msg2510746

I might be opening a can of worms here (and said can might have been opened many times in this thread, but I'm not often here), but......

Why is this the politicians' fault?
simple, lack of action, or even promising it when running re-election campaign, I mean now is the time to promise regardless of your plan

in case you don't know,  route 9 is a state road similar to rt 59 in Monsey, and it is the main artery of Lakewood choked by 3 lakes (imagine Monsey without maple ave how would rt 59 look like)
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1334 on: November 02, 2021, 11:08:37 PM »

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1335 on: November 03, 2021, 05:05:37 PM »
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1336 on: November 03, 2021, 05:46:49 PM »
I was in Satmar yesterday and counted close to 20 unique signs about the elections. @_@
I'm not going to tell you how many of those signs were made by the same person...

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1337 on: November 04, 2021, 07:23:35 PM »
The future of Lakewood certainly seems to be more willing to deal with issues than the Lakewood of 20 years ago.


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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1338 on: November 04, 2021, 07:38:26 PM »
The future of Lakewood certainly seems to be more willing to deal with issues than the Lakewood of 20 years ago.
they had these 20 years ago too

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #1339 on: November 04, 2021, 10:47:59 PM »
The future of Lakewood certainly seems to be more willing to deal with issues than the Lakewood of 20 years ago.

An accused pedophile moved into the neighborhood and the residents are extremely concerned.