Author Topic: The Future of Lakewood  (Read 754950 times)

Offline YitzyS

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 6173
  • Total likes: 15846
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 34
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood, NJ
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2380 on: October 31, 2022, 04:20:22 PM »
https://thelakewoodscoop.com/news/just-in-jackson-township-to-purchase-leesville-farm-property/

Which schools were these?
3 schools: 2 elementary and one high school. I think new Cheder and new Bais Faiga but not positive.

Online Euclid

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 5487
  • Total likes: 7057
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2381 on: October 31, 2022, 05:32:48 PM »
I think new Cheder and new Bais Faiga but not positive.
Was wondering if it was these

Offline YitzyS

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 6173
  • Total likes: 15846
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 34
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood, NJ
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2382 on: October 31, 2022, 06:43:54 PM »
3 schools: 2 elementary and one high school. I think new Cheder and new Bais Faiga but not positive.
Was wondering if it was these
Correction: I think it is NOT the Cheder schools. I knew that the Cheder schools are slated for Leesville, which is why I assumed this was those. But now I see that this is a separate property on the same street, which was slated to have 4 schools.

Offline imayid2

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jun 2022
  • Posts: 3120
  • Total likes: 2874
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2383 on: November 01, 2022, 09:38:52 AM »

Offline Sam 77

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2022
  • Posts: 781
  • Total likes: 642
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2384 on: November 01, 2022, 11:45:08 AM »

Offline king solomon

  • Dansdeals Silver Elite
  • **
  • Join Date: Apr 2021
  • Posts: 83
  • Total likes: 38
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile

Online avromie7

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Feb 2014
  • Posts: 8611
  • Total likes: 3007
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2386 on: November 01, 2022, 10:31:00 PM »
https://thelakewoodscoop.com/news/accident-scene-towing-issue-prompts-lakewood-to-crack-down-with-legislation/
It's really ridiculous. My mother was in an accident yesterday, BH everyone is OK, but at the scene she was being harassed by towing companies and body shops. They were making everyone crazy and driving the cops crazy.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

Online yuneeq

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jan 2013
  • Posts: 9056
  • Total likes: 4405
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 10
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: NJ
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2387 on: November 01, 2022, 11:24:59 PM »
https://thelakewoodscoop.com/news/accident-scene-towing-issue-prompts-lakewood-to-crack-down-with-legislation/

It’s about time, accident chasing is slimy and way out of hand. Hopefully this will level the playing field and bring more business to the few shops that don’t chase.
Visibly Jewish

Offline Shmobaum

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2017
  • Posts: 620
  • Total likes: 248
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
  • Programs: National EE, Hertz Presidential, Marriott Gold Elite, Daf Yomi Presidential Platinum Premier
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2388 on: November 01, 2022, 11:34:31 PM »
I’m actually grateful to Viggy Bleich for showing up to the scene of my accident about 9 years ago. He calmed me down and spoke with the cops and proved them that I wasn’t at fault. But he was the only one to show up…

Offline flyingace

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jun 2008
  • Posts: 1488
  • Total likes: 451
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2389 on: November 02, 2022, 03:22:18 PM »
I’m actually grateful to Viggy Bleich for showing up to the scene of my accident about 9 years ago. He calmed me down and spoke with the cops and proved them that I wasn’t at fault. But he was the only one to show up…
Blech

Online Euclid

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2010
  • Posts: 5487
  • Total likes: 7057
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile

Offline YitzyS

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 6173
  • Total likes: 15846
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 34
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood, NJ

Offline YitzyS

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 6173
  • Total likes: 15846
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 34
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood, NJ
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2392 on: November 08, 2022, 09:42:39 PM »
With all Jackson districts reporting, incumbent mayor Mike Reina has easily won reelection, together with the two newcomers on his slate for council. IINM, he was backed by the frum community. His opponent, Flemming, who was running along the incumbent councilmen, lost.

Offline Pony

  • Dansdeals Silver Elite
  • **
  • Join Date: Jul 2022
  • Posts: 72
  • Total likes: 282
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Toms River
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2393 on: November 16, 2022, 12:29:40 AM »
BTW there was a robocall tonight with an update, but it was a little complex, so I'll attempt to explain it simply

There was another robocall last night and signs up in the shuls again. Any update?

Offline YitzyS

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 6173
  • Total likes: 15846
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 34
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood, NJ
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2394 on: November 16, 2022, 12:37:17 AM »
There was another robocall last night and signs up in the shuls again. Any update?
Defense filed their appeal brief yesterday.

Offline Randomex

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2018
  • Posts: 537
  • Total likes: 1015
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
  • Programs: MSPaint, Notepad, Firefox, VLC Media Player - Old sig quote was found in Reb Mendel and His Wisdom
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2395 on: November 16, 2022, 07:59:15 PM »
Does anyone here know who owns the billboard(?) in the lot on the corner of 7th and Monmouth?
"Any word can mean anything! By giving words new meanings, ordinary English can become an exclusionary code!" -Cal.&Hob.

Online avromie7

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Feb 2014
  • Posts: 8611
  • Total likes: 3007
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2396 on: November 16, 2022, 08:46:27 PM »
Does anyone here know who owns the billboard(?) in the lot on the corner of 7th and Monmouth?
Herskowitz from Mid-State movers
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

Offline Pony

  • Dansdeals Silver Elite
  • **
  • Join Date: Jul 2022
  • Posts: 72
  • Total likes: 282
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Toms River
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2397 on: November 18, 2022, 09:12:13 AM »
https://yated.com/dont-lose-sight-of-the-tovas-lev-barometer-even-in-traffic/

We all know what the ikkar is: Torah, mitzvos, middos tovos… You go to a levayah and hear stories about how much the niftar had been devoted to learning, how she supported his learning at all costs, how kind she was and how generous he was, how many poor people he or she helped, how many yeshivos he supported, and the list goes on.

I don’t recall anyone saying that he was so clever that when he designed the building/store/development, he was able to finagle the powers that be to allow him to provide patrons with fewer parking spaces, even though everyone knew that there was way below the appropriate number.

No one will say that he built a supermarket or even a shul or yeshiva and ruined the quality of life of all the neighbors because he somehow figured out how to get away without providing parking or with building a narrow street so that for the next four decades, his fellow Yidden were inconvenienced…

I sometimes drive through developments and experience frustration, and I see the frustration on the faces of the many others who are stuck and I wonder. Yes, the primary fault lies with the government officials who set policy at the top and those who serve at their pleasure, but what about the developer or the owner? Certainly, you can get away with it. Certainly, you can make more money and get a few more square feet in or another unit in, but think for a second: Is it worth it that for the next countless years, you might be damaging scores of fine people who just want to live their lives? Is it worth it that so many Yiddishe mammes and tattes should come to work, yeshiva, or wherever they are going stressed out and frustrated because you managed to figure out how to get the right lawyer and the right corrupt engineers and traffic study people to knowingly lie or at least fudge the truth? Yes, you won. You made a few dollars. But did you really win?

Is the suffering of all those Yidden because you were able to get away with it really worth it? After 120 years, do you really want to have some cheilek in that peckel? Really? Think about the long term just for a second.
There is another thing as well. What about the chillul Hashem? Does the fact that the town in which you reside, a town that symbolizes frum Jews, have a name for being corrupt, for being ugly and congested with not a whit of care for its long-suffering citizens, make the name of Hashem beloved to others? When political campaigns in neighboring towns say, “We don’t want to become the urban mess that is next door,” does that make Hashem’s Name beloved or desecrated?

And one more thing while we are at it. When a mosad of chinuch, a yeshiva or a Bais Yaakov, makes a simcha hall without providing adequate parking or tries to change the law to allow for inadequate parking even when they know that it will snarl traffic and cause sakanah, is that not a colossal chillul Hashem? Yes, we understand that our mosdos need to be solvent and the income from a simcha hall is helpful, but at what cost? Are you willing to sacrifice your primary mission of inculcating Torah and Torah values into your young charges by engaging in conduct that shows greed and hardball-playing that are the diametric opposite of Torah values? Do you not realize what hypocrisy that conveys?
What Do You Want Said in Shomayim?

Let us remember the Steipler’s lesson of tovas lev.

We sometimes get so caught up in winning the momentary battle that we don’t think about winning the war. After 120, no one is going to say at a person’s levayah that because of that person, neighborhoods were ruined, people suffered daily and nightly in traffic, and people were injured or killed r”l because of the intolerable traffic situation.

No one would be so insensitive to say something like that at a levayah, but what about up Above, in Shomayim?

Let’s take a lesson from Eliezer and Rivka about priorities, and instead of just preaching, let’s actually put our money where our mouths are or put our mouths where our money is…

Online jye

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jan 2017
  • Posts: 951
  • Total likes: 1519
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood NJ
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2398 on: November 24, 2022, 08:45:34 PM »
https://thelakewoodscoop.com/news/its-happening-affordable-chasunahs-becoming-a-reality-in-lakewood/

Something isn’t working when average low to middle income families are spending north of 45k each side to make the chasuna, before and after shabbosim, and ancillary expenses. And that’s considered to be a really modest standard. For a family of 10 kids that is a staggering amount.

This initiative is more like a drop in the bucket since much of the expense is for items other than the wedding hall. My wife said a couple of her friends were trying to imagine what Lakewood will look like when the boom of middle aged couples becomes older retirees who have maxed out their savings on their last kids who just got married in their old age, and probably taken out Helocs or other loans to boot. Are we going to have a flood of indigent elderly who spent beyond their means on their kids all the years, or will people wake up at some point and prioritize retirement and make simchas that they can afford? I don’t know the answer either. Pretty scary.


Offline Yehudaa

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Mar 2018
  • Posts: 3985
  • Total likes: 3114
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 111
    • View Profile
Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2399 on: November 24, 2022, 08:50:21 PM »
https://thelakewoodscoop.com/news/its-happening-affordable-chasunahs-becoming-a-reality-in-lakewood/

Something isn’t working when average low to middle income families are spending north of 45k each side to make the chasuna, before and after shabbosim, and ancillary expenses. And that’s considered to be a really modest standard. For a family of 10 kids that is a staggering amount.

This initiative is more like a drop in the bucket since much of the expense is for items other than the wedding hall. My wife said a couple of her friends were trying to imagine what Lakewood will look like when the boom of middle aged couples becomes older retirees who have maxed out their savings on their last kids who just got married in their old age, and probably taken out Helocs or other loans to boot. Are we going to have a flood of indigent elderly who spent beyond their means on their kids all the years, or will people wake up at some point and prioritize retirement and make simchas that they can afford? I don’t know the answer either. Pretty scary.
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=115607.msg2227849#msg2227849