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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3200 on: June 28, 2023, 07:30:31 PM »
His ads compared certain rabbonim to ——- who will do anything for money.
Is that true in your opinion?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3201 on: June 28, 2023, 08:03:48 PM »

It's not the first time you mentioned this on DDF, but I still have no idea what your talking about. I don't remember anything like this.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3202 on: June 28, 2023, 08:43:25 PM »
It's not the first time you mentioned this on DDF, but I still have no idea what your talking about. I don't remember anything like this.
I don't remember this specifically but I do remember him stalking a committee member's wife for harassment.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3204 on: July 02, 2023, 07:36:32 PM »
https://www.faanews.com/2023/07/first-report-proposed-revolutionary.html

Senate didn't hear the new proposed busing authority bill

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3205 on: July 02, 2023, 07:40:41 PM »
https://www.faanews.com/2023/07/first-report-proposed-revolutionary.html

Senate didn't hear the new proposed busing authority bill
Email I just got:


Dear friends,

As you may be aware, New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy signed the New Jersey state budget this past week.
There are many ramifications for New Jersey residents.
Please join us for a webinar at 8:00 tonight in which we will explain how the budget impacts you, your family, and our entire community.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3206 on: July 02, 2023, 08:05:58 PM »
Email I just got:


Dear friends,

As you may be aware, New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy signed the New Jersey state budget this past week.
There are many ramifications for New Jersey residents.
Please join us for a webinar at 8:00 tonight in which we will explain how the budget impacts you, your family, and our entire community.
You can access the webinar by clicking here, or by calling in to 309-205-3325, using meeting ID 517 431 6594#.
We look forward to having you join us.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3207 on: July 03, 2023, 12:11:04 AM »

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3208 on: July 03, 2023, 12:34:57 AM »
TLDW?
Was about half an hour long.

Went through some of the points of the budget. Avi Schnall said that they got some stuff they wanted but not everything, called it a five-and-a-half or six out of ten.

Got a significant increase in Aid-in-lieu (about $145 per child), which can help get more routed bid out and can help keep the LSTA from raising costs for courtesy busing. (IINM, it is a pretty significant raise compared to the standard.)

Got a lot more money for special services, but there is also a huge increase in usage, so it may not translate into an actual increase.

Free lunches for all didn't go up for a vote, but Agudah got private school students back into the bill, so if it ever goes up for a vote, it should include yeshivos. There was a general increase in the eligibility level though, so more students are eligible.

I left out tons of stuff, but these were just some of the things I remember.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3209 on: July 03, 2023, 11:25:30 AM »
But they didn't mention anything about summer food boxes.


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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3211 on: July 04, 2023, 08:38:03 PM »

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3212 on: July 05, 2023, 10:42:32 AM »
More detailed piece: https://matzav.com/eisemann-prosecutors-appeal-case-to-states-highest-court/

What in your opinion @YitzyS is the motivation to appeal to the supreme court? Last we thought it was because they didn't want to go to a new trial and be compelled to turn over the full Exhibit F. But they have since been required to turn it over to the defense. So what's the motivation now?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3213 on: July 05, 2023, 10:51:40 AM »
What in your opinion @YitzyS is the motivation to appeal to the supreme court? Last we thought it was because they didn't want to go to a new trial and be compelled to turn over the full Exhibit F. But they have since been required to turn it over to the defense. So what's the motivation now?
Trying to answer for the Brady violation and other things they were called out for, on the record. They accomplish that even if the SC doesn't take the case. IMO

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3214 on: July 05, 2023, 10:54:57 AM »
What in your opinion @YitzyS is the motivation to appeal to the supreme court? Last we thought it was because they didn't want to go to a new trial and be compelled to turn over the full Exhibit F. But they have since been required to turn it over to the defense. So what's the motivation now?

Why can't it simply be they don't want a retrial - they have a guilty verdict they want to stick, and they certainly don't want Brady violations on their record.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3215 on: July 05, 2023, 11:00:03 AM »
Why can't it simply be they don't want a retrial - they have a guilty verdict they want to stick, and they certainly don't want Brady violations on their record.

True.. I guess I'm thinking with a 90% chance that the SC will not hear this, it will put the prosecution in a worse light. I'm pretty sure the defense was hoping that at this point they wouldn't appeal anymore for that reason.

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« Reply #3216 on: July 05, 2023, 11:03:51 AM »
True.. I guess I'm thinking with a 90% chance that the SC will not hear this, it will put the prosecution in a worse light. I'm pretty sure the defense was hoping that at this point they wouldn't appeal anymore for that reason.
What do they have to lose by appealing to the SC?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3217 on: July 05, 2023, 11:09:31 AM »
True.. I guess I'm thinking with a 90% chance that the SC will not hear this, it will put the prosecution in a worse light. I'm pretty sure the defense was hoping that at this point they wouldn't appeal anymore for that reason.

Why would they look worse? The SC takes on a fraction of the cases they are presented. It is not indicative of anything if they don't take it on. However if they do take it on and the SC affirms the ruling, *then* it looks worse for the prosecution, as the SC will have affirmed the Brady violation! Unless they are completely blinded by their hubris, they might actually be hoping the SC doesn't take on the case for that reason, and then they can always say, "The court got this wrong [because the judge is a ....], but what can we do the SC won't even look at it."

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3218 on: July 05, 2023, 11:12:46 AM »
Why would they look worse? The SC takes on a fraction of the cases they are presented. It is not indicative of anything if they don't take it on. However if they do take it on and the SC affirms the ruling, *then* it looks worse for the prosecution, as the SC will have affirmed the Brady violation! Unless they are completely blinded by their hubris, they might actually be hoping the SC doesn't take on the case for that reason, and then they can always say, "The court got this wrong [because the judge is a ....], but what can we do the SC won't even look at it."

Makes sense.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3219 on: July 05, 2023, 11:53:16 AM »
What in your opinion @YitzyS is the motivation to appeal to the supreme court?...So what's the motivation now?

They get to stretch out the case longer and increase R' Eisemann's legal costs
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