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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3220 on: July 05, 2023, 02:29:07 PM »
A couple guys came around knocking on doors in my neighborhood, they identified themselves as being from Solstice Community Solar and said they were partnering up with JCPNL etc and were going to save me 20% on my bill. Something to do with a solar farm in Toms River

They said they need to see my bill so I went to get it for them but then was advised by google to never show my bill to a stranger so I sent them packing.

Are they legit?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3221 on: July 05, 2023, 02:32:25 PM »
A couple guys came around knocking on doors in my neighborhood, they identified themselves as being from Solstice Community Solar and said they were partnering up with JCPNL etc and were going to save me 20% on my bill. Something to do with a solar farm in Toms River

They said they need to see my bill so I went to get it for them but then was advised by google to never show my bill to a stranger so I sent them packing.

Are they legit?
Maybe @aygart can advise?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3222 on: July 05, 2023, 02:59:28 PM »
they are completely blinded by their hubris,
and they are actively preparing for round two

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3223 on: July 05, 2023, 03:51:57 PM »
A couple guys came around knocking on doors in my neighborhood, they identified themselves as being from Solstice Community Solar and said they were partnering up with JCPNL etc and were going to save me 20% on my bill. Something to do with a solar farm in Toms River

They said they need to see my bill so I went to get it for them but then was advised by google to never show my bill to a stranger so I sent them packing.

Are they legit?
I don't know about Solstice, but you can save 21% in JCP&L with community solar as was discussed here.
I assume you're talking about community solar, it is legit. You can use my link to sign up.
arcadia.com/NationalAuditors
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3224 on: July 05, 2023, 04:43:26 PM »
and they are actively preparing for round two
There is a decent chance that they do not want to go through discovery again.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3225 on: July 05, 2023, 04:44:17 PM »
Maybe @aygart can advise?
I don't know about Solstice, but you can save 21% in JCP&L with community solar as was discussed here.
+1
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3226 on: July 05, 2023, 05:13:24 PM »
What in your opinion @YitzyS is the motivation to appeal to the supreme court? Last we thought it was because they didn't want to go to a new trial and be compelled to turn over the full Exhibit F. But they have since been required to turn it over to the defense. So what's the motivation now?
I think the responses were on point, so I'm not going to elaborate.

I will just note that they didn't get the full Exhibit F yet, because they only gave a clean copy. It is possible that the judge will still compel them to give the original copy with all their notes if a new trial takes place.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3227 on: July 05, 2023, 08:39:12 PM »
What in your opinion @YitzyS is the motivation to appeal to the supreme court? Last we thought it was because they didn't want to go to a new trial and be compelled to turn over the full Exhibit F. But they have since been required to turn it over to the defense. So what's the motivation now?
Some people (especially arrogant prosecutors and politicians) don't know how to back down and cut their losses. This is their only option to save that guilty verdict they got. Going for a retrial is accepting that the guilty verdict was vacated.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3228 on: July 19, 2023, 03:40:18 PM »
Lakewood beware: Weinstein's Back >:(

Aged very well, I must say

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3229 on: July 19, 2023, 05:02:15 PM »
Lakewood guy wrote seforim (think he headed a kollel at one point), apparently led double life for years dating hundreds of non Jewish girls in NYC and scamming them with assumed identity. He put out a lot of money and effort to hide the search results over the years but Vanity Fair is coming out with an expose.
Article dropped in the daily beast

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3230 on: July 19, 2023, 05:18:24 PM »
Don't think it's fair to conclude פורק מעליו עול מלכות שמים לגמרי
By the fact that he tried keeping his frum wife/child and good name by going to great lengths to cover up and live the "double life" it's fair to say this was taavah based, probably fell and picked himself up and fell again, trying to change and falling again and reasonable to conclude Lebo Bashomyim
Sounds like someone who was פורק מעליו עול מלכות שמים to me.

Scary that someone who possesses the כשרון and delved deep into the intricacies of Torah to put out the work that he did, on one of the most difficult Halachik topics (agenda or no agenda), can fall so low.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3231 on: July 19, 2023, 05:21:14 PM »
B"H the article doesn't focus too much on Lakewood. I was expecting much worse

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3232 on: July 19, 2023, 06:05:31 PM »
Sounds like someone who was פורק מעליו עול מלכות שמים to me.

Scary that someone who possesses the כשרון and delved deep into the intricacies of Torah to put out the work that he did, on one of the most difficult Halachik topics (agenda or no agenda), can fall so low.

It only requires intellegence and delving into intricacies, and is only a difficult topic when truth is on the agenda. It is very easy to pull out lines and make up svaros if truth is not a requirement.
ETA: See clarification below
« Last Edit: July 19, 2023, 06:40:55 PM by aygart »
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3233 on: July 19, 2023, 06:28:51 PM »
It only requires intellegence and delving into intricacies, and is only a difficult topic when truth is on the agenda. It is very easy to pull out lines and make up svaros if truth is not a requirement.
Did you go through it? Or are you also biased about that story?

I didn't go through the sefer, and I can understand why people are dismissing it (they're on the other side of that story), but I can personally attest to his genius. I've handeled in learning with him - he's a baal kishron of the highest caliber.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3234 on: July 19, 2023, 06:40:19 PM »
Did you go through it? Or are you also biased about that story?

I didn't go through the sefer, and I can understand why people are dismissing it (they're on the other side of that story), but I can personally attest to his genius. I've handeled in learning with him - he's a baal kishron of the highest caliber.

I guess I should clarify that it is not based on any knowledge at all about him or his writings but rather a general opinion about what I've seen about agenda driven writings on other complex topics. IME the more complex the topic is the fewer people there are who are capable of understanding whether something agenda driven is really meaningful or not. I am definitely not familiar enough with that topic to give an opinion about it.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3235 on: July 19, 2023, 07:20:37 PM »
https://forum.otzar.org/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=42917&start=160
מה עושים אוצר החכמה למעשה?
יש ספר א' [אגב ספר מושקע ונפלא, בהלכות חמורות] הנמצא באוצר, ועכשיו נתגלה שמחברו - ממשפחת רם - הוא נבל שלא ברשות התורה, עד שאפילו כל [א]נשי הרחוב והאינטרנט יוצאים כנגדו בשצף קצף.
האם יסירו הספר מהאוצר? ימים יגידו. :o

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3236 on: July 19, 2023, 07:31:34 PM »
On which topic did he write?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3237 on: July 19, 2023, 07:35:57 PM »
On which topic did he write?
עגונות

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3238 on: July 19, 2023, 09:07:09 PM »
A few ppl keep saying that his sefer had an agenda bec of his sisters get being withheld.
but honestly it has nothing to do with that, even though ppl call that an עגונה thats not what הל עגונות is about.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3239 on: July 19, 2023, 09:11:06 PM »
A few ppl keep saying that his sefer had an agenda bec of his sisters get being withheld.
but honestly it has nothing to do with that, even though ppl call that an עגונה thats not what הל עגונות is about.
This is something Iíve been wondering about. What in the world would סימן י״ז have to do with getting his sister a Get?
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