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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3260 on: July 20, 2023, 12:09:39 AM »
Na he took it to an extreme. His MO remained the same - top guy in learning, hanging out with non Jewish girls; since his teenage years. I thought he settled down after marriage, so I was shocked when this story came out - but was not at all surprised.
Reminds me of this from Yankel Miller, he said he had a big fight with his yetzer hora this morning, his yetzer tov wanted him to get up but the yetzer hora wanted him to sleep, in the end he says the yetzer tov won, 12 o'clock...
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3261 on: July 20, 2023, 12:12:46 AM »
Really ? And wearing a cross ? I want to eat trayf especially when it's free but I don't... I also don't moonlight as a Rabbi.

This guy has serious issues... Maybe the drugs are just part of it

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3262 on: July 20, 2023, 12:14:11 AM »
I want to eat trayf especially when it's free
How Jewish are you





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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3263 on: July 20, 2023, 12:15:46 AM »
Really ? And wearing a cross ? I want to eat trayf especially when it's free but I don't... I also don't moonlight as a Rabbi.

This guy has serious issues... Maybe the drugs are just part of it
I only started reading about this now (thanks @Yehudaa ...)

Was he moonlighting as a Rabbi or moonlighting as that upper west side guy?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3264 on: July 20, 2023, 12:16:55 AM »
How Jewish are you

Very very tough conflict... Free... But trayf.. and kosher food is $$


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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3265 on: July 20, 2023, 12:17:48 AM »
I want to eat trayf especially when it's free but I don't...
How Jewish are you
Very Jewish..., you get more schar like that...
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3266 on: July 20, 2023, 12:18:00 AM »
Reminds me of this from Yankel Miller, he said he had a big fight with his yetzer hora this morning, his yetzer tov wanted him to get up but the yetzer hora wanted him to sleep, in the end he says the yetzer tov won, 12 o'clock...

...he told them wake me up when you're done fighting.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3267 on: July 20, 2023, 12:20:11 AM »
I don't understand why this is a story to anyone other than the frum Jews. To them it's just some random guy behaving like a creep and lying to girls. How is that a story? There's implication of maybe some fraud with the part about the charity page, but no real allegation made. No claim of SA, etc. It's not a 'takedown' piece because this is not some public/famous figure of a high position to be taken down.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3268 on: July 20, 2023, 12:21:26 AM »
I don't understand why this is a story to anyone other than the frum Jews. To them it's just some random guy behaving like a creep and lying to girls. How is that a story? There's implication of maybe some fraud with the part about the charity page, but no real allegation made. No claim of SA, etc. It's not a 'takedown' piece because this is not some public/famous figure of a high position to be taken down.
But "he was a rabbi"!
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3269 on: July 20, 2023, 12:25:15 AM »
I know nothing about the Sefer, and nothing about the story, but some of the halachos that might be used to be matir an aguna might apply to some situations of a get being withheld.
ive learn סי יז (a while ago) but honestly cant think of any...
there are many other סימנים in אבן העזר that would directly relate.

it is possible that the point was to show hes a בקי in אבן העזר so that whatever he said about his sisters get would be taken seriously

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3270 on: July 20, 2023, 12:28:33 AM »
I don't understand why this is a story to anyone other than the frum Jews. To them it's just some random guy behaving like a creep and lying to girls. How is that a story? There's implication of maybe some fraud with the part about the charity page, but no real allegation made. No claim of SA, etc. It's not a 'takedown' piece because this is not some public/famous figure of a high position to be taken down.
Agreed. No reason why being a real life Barney Stinson is scandalous in the secular world.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3271 on: July 20, 2023, 12:31:30 AM »
btw if u google him a schedule from a west side shul comes up - it was referenced in the article.
It says that he "is the Rabbi and Rosh Kollel at Khal
Netzach Yehoshua in Lakewood. He also serves as a
senior advisor to the Israeli Rabbinate on matters
pertaining to Agunot. He has authored several books
including Marot Haadam on the laws of Agunot. His
eclectic experiences have taken him from leading
Passover Seders in Israel for unaffiliated Israelis
to speaking at an impromptu "Jews for Mardi Gras"
event in New Orleans."
besides for the sefer, every single thing sounds completely made up.
also he gave a speech about "Embracing Self Doubt". Quite apropos.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3272 on: July 20, 2023, 12:31:51 AM »
I don't understand why this is a story to anyone other than the frum Jews. To them it's just some random guy behaving like a creep and lying to girls. How is that a story? There's implication of maybe some fraud with the part about the charity page, but no real allegation made. No claim of SA, etc. It's not a 'takedown' piece because this is not some public/famous figure of a high position to be taken down.

I've seen stories like this in past on NY post etc

It's also mysterious, the houses etc

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3273 on: July 20, 2023, 12:37:23 AM »
I don't understand why this is a story to anyone other than the frum Jews. To them it's just some random guy behaving like a creep and lying to girls. How is that a story? There's implication of maybe some fraud with the part about the charity page, but no real allegation made. No claim of SA, etc. It's not a 'takedown' piece because this is not some public/famous figure of a high position to be taken down.
from my impression- it wasnt just a few girls. he was very well known on the ny influencer scene. on the original tiktok video there was in a day over 500k views with tons of comments from ppl that knew of him. he hung out with celebrities claimed he was a saudi spy etc

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3274 on: July 20, 2023, 12:44:40 AM »
Just wondering how he managed to be so many days and weekends (Shabbosim!!) off to build all these relationships and name recognition, which makes be think that his close family and friends new very well that he's יענס פויגל.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3275 on: July 20, 2023, 12:57:36 AM »
from my impression- it wasnt just a few girls. he was very well known on the ny influencer scene. on the original tiktok video there was in a day over 500k views with tons of comments from ppl that knew of him. he hung out with celebrities claimed he was a saudi spy etc
Why does it matter how many girls? And if he was known in a very specific 'scene', to me that still doesn't rise to the level of 'fame' that would warrant a 'takedown'. Maybe what was throwing me off is that someone said Vanity Fair originally, which IMO would be very surprising - a small article like this might not be all that out of character for a site like The Daily Beast, even without the orthodox jew angle.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3276 on: July 20, 2023, 12:59:09 AM »
What did he tell his wife? That he is doing kiruv in Manhattan?

Where is this guy now? Did he skip town?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3277 on: July 20, 2023, 01:00:45 AM »
I don't understand why this is a story to anyone other than the frum Jews. To them it's just some random guy behaving like a creep and lying to girls. How is that a story? There's implication of maybe some fraud with the part about the charity page, but no real allegation made. No claim of SA, etc. It's not a 'takedown' piece because this is not some public/famous figure of a high position to be taken down.
Seemingly there is also a fraud angle involved.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3278 on: July 20, 2023, 01:02:38 AM »
Why does it matter how many girls? And if he was known in a very specific 'scene', to me that still doesn't rise to the level of 'fame' that would warrant a 'takedown'. Maybe what was throwing me off is that someone said Vanity Fair originally, which IMO would be very surprising - a small article like this might not be all that out of character for a site like The Daily Beast, even without the orthodox jew angle.
i think ur overestimating how common it is for someone to pull off a prolonged scam on many ppl like this for years.
the proof is in the pudding, there were millions of views on videos made about it

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3279 on: July 20, 2023, 01:09:29 AM »
How much does it cost to control the google searches about him?