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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3460 on: August 23, 2023, 01:07:18 PM »
Why not use talking in shul?

I don't know, maybe the author talks in shul ?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3461 on: August 23, 2023, 01:29:19 PM »
So had KD/AD gone to YU they'd be cured from their extramarital tendencies?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3462 on: August 23, 2023, 01:45:52 PM »
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/kyle-deschanel-who-by-forgiveness-who-by-excommunication/

A mumble jumble of confused nonsense. I found it hard to follow his basic points and what they have to do with KD. His basic premise that KD was forgiven is absurd and based on nothing. Mentioning who KDs relatives are (even if he didn't name them specifically) adds nothing to his premise and is just a low, dirty move. His mixing of communities (Israel, Brooklyn, Lakewood) shows either a lack of understanding or more likely, an attempt to conflate many issue to give his unknowledgeable readers a non reality based impression. Literally nothing of substance in this screed to even respond to. 

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3463 on: August 23, 2023, 02:33:09 PM »
A mumble jumble of confused nonsense. I found it hard to follow his basic points and what they have to do with KD. His basic premise that KD was forgiven is absurd and based on nothing. Mentioning who KDs relatives are (even if he didn't name them specifically) adds nothing to his premise and is just a low, dirty move. His mixing of communities (Israel, Brooklyn, Lakewood) shows either a lack of understanding or more likely, an attempt to conflate many issue to give his unknowledgeable readers a non reality based impression. Literally nothing of substance in this screed to even respond to.

Haha 😂 I write chaotic like that often but if it's a published piece, I clean it up.

Gist is, there's no outrage, you have a musmach who's behavior was completely opposite of a frum Jew but much more severe given that he has semicha etc

And the author goes out to show that Lakewood is unforgiving but in this case, it's a non story

All good points. Stay away from Lakewood, between this story and prices at seared

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3464 on: August 23, 2023, 02:37:44 PM »
Haha 😂 I write chaotic like that often but if it's a published piece, I clean it up.

Gist is, there's no outrage, you have a musmach who's behavior was completely opposite of a frum Jew but much more severe given that he has semicha etc

And the author goes out to show that Lakewood is unforgiving but in this case, it's a non story

All good points. Stay away from Lakewood, between this story and prices at seared
It's a non-story? He's been ostracized by everyone except for his immediate family, and isn't being given 15 minutes of fame or any other attention.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3465 on: August 23, 2023, 02:39:07 PM »
Haha 😂 I write chaotic like that often but if it's a published piece, I clean it up.

Gist is, there's no outrage, you have a musmach who's behavior was completely opposite of a frum Jew but much more severe given that he has semicha etc

And the author goes out to show that Lakewood is unforgiving but in this case, it's a non story

All good points. Stay away from Lakewood, between this story and prices at seared
Hes taking BMGs Semicha a little too serious. Also, the prices came down at Seared.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3466 on: August 23, 2023, 02:54:46 PM »
Hes taking BMGs Semicha a little too serious. Also, the prices came down at Seared.

Only $14 btl of water ?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3467 on: August 23, 2023, 03:08:29 PM »
Haha 😂 I write chaotic like that often but if it's a published piece, I clean it up.

Gist is, there's no outrage, you have a musmach who's behavior was completely opposite of a frum Jew but much more severe given that he has semicha etc

And the author goes out to show that Lakewood is unforgiving but in this case, it's a non story

All good points. Stay away from Lakewood, between this story and prices at seared

He's an individual, one of many thousands of BMG alumni. He played no public role. He didn't author popular kids books. He didn't write a column in a major Jewish newspaper. He went OTD, unfortunately he's not the first one.  Its an absurd expectation that BMG should issue an official press release regarding his actions.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3468 on: August 23, 2023, 03:09:16 PM »
He's an individual, one of many thousands of BMG alumni. He played no public role. He didn't author popular kids books. He didn't write a column in a major Jewish newspaper. He went OTD, unfortunately he's not the first one.  Its an absurd expectation that BMG should issue an official press release regarding his actions.
The problem is that he didn't
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3469 on: August 23, 2023, 03:11:18 PM »
The problem is that he didn't
It's quite apparent that he did.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3470 on: August 23, 2023, 03:19:26 PM »
It's quite apparent that he did.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3471 on: August 23, 2023, 03:23:40 PM »
I bet that if you poll every talmid of BMG if they heard of KD, more than 90 percent will say "Who??"

The notion that BMG should say anything publicly about him is simply absurd.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3472 on: August 23, 2023, 03:30:43 PM »
I bet that if you poll every talmid of BMG if they heard of KD, more than 90 percent will say "Who??"

The notion that BMG should say anything publicly about him is simply absurd.

Equally absurd are the other 15 stories in Lakewood the author quotes.. of people kicked out of school for minor infractions

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3473 on: August 23, 2023, 04:13:43 PM »
Equally absurd are the other 15 stories in Lakewood the author quotes.. of people kicked out of school for minor infractions

The author knows nothing about Lakewood. He's mining a few sad blogs for his info. I have or had children in boys and girls high schools and elementary schools in Lakewood. The author is clueless. There is literally nothing in his article that's worth responding to. 

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3474 on: August 24, 2023, 12:28:01 AM »
Off the Derech: using unfiltered smartphones in public

Is this a joke?
How about something much more basic, like eating non-kosher?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3475 on: August 24, 2023, 07:03:33 AM »
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/kyle-deschanel-who-by-forgiveness-who-by-excommunication/
Was in yeshiva with the author. I'm sure he means well, but he's a depressed, misguided guy with a complex

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3476 on: August 24, 2023, 07:21:17 AM »
I was also in yeshiva with KD. I'm not sure who I'm more embarrassed of

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3477 on: August 24, 2023, 07:49:05 AM »
The author knows nothing about Lakewood. He's mining a few sad blogs for his info. I have or had children in boys and girls high schools and elementary schools in Lakewood.
How was your experience getting your children into school? I've heard many horror stories, not from this article...

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3478 on: August 24, 2023, 07:49:24 AM »
Is this a joke?
How about something much more basic, like eating non-kosher?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3479 on: August 24, 2023, 08:02:09 AM »
No OTD is limited to visible external stuff
Since when is that the definition?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.