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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3480 on: August 24, 2023, 08:03:24 AM »
How was your experience getting your children into school? I've heard many horror stories, not from this article...
Why would that be relevant to this story?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3481 on: August 24, 2023, 08:39:01 AM »
How was your experience getting your children into school? I've heard many horror stories, not from this article...

This has nothing to do with KD but if your point is that there are issues that need to be fixed in Lakewood, you wont get an argument from me.

I don't really want to derail this thread but since you asked, the issues with getting kids into school is mostly a space issue. Parents that apply to a few schools that are a good fit for their family have a pretty good chance at getting in smoothly. As the greater Lakewood area continues to grow and become more diverse more schools will likely open that will cater to other demographics but until that happens, conforming to the yeshiva community standards is also very helpful.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3482 on: August 24, 2023, 08:40:49 AM »
Since when is that the definition?
It has always been about external behavior
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3483 on: August 24, 2023, 09:23:49 AM »
It has always been about external behavior

In every circle Iíve been a part of, someone that stops keeping Shabbat or kosher would be considered OTD even if they wear a white shirt. Not sure what your agenda is.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3484 on: August 24, 2023, 09:37:03 AM »
In every circle Iíve been a part of, someone that stops keeping Shabbat or kosher would be considered OTD even if they wear a white shirt. Not sure what your agenda is.
Ofc if the public knows about them not keeping shabbos, unlike KD that nobody knew
I have no agenda my point was the KD wasn't considered OTD until he was exposed, vs your typical "Lakewood OTD"
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3485 on: August 24, 2023, 09:46:06 AM »
Ofc if the public knows about them not keeping shabbos, unlike KD that nobody knew
I have no agenda my point was the KD wasn't considered OTD until he was exposed, vs your typical "Lakewood OTD"

Obviously no one would consider someone OTD if no one knows that the person is OTD.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3486 on: August 24, 2023, 09:58:20 AM »
My comment was about this post, point being that it's not an OTD who did these things, it was a supposedly frum yeshiva guy doing it.

Case closed

He's an individual, one of many thousands of BMG alumni. He played no public role. He didn't author popular kids books. He didn't write a column in a major Jewish newspaper. He went OTD, unfortunately he's not the first one.  Its an absurd expectation that BMG should issue an official press release regarding his actions.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3487 on: August 24, 2023, 12:57:59 PM »
This thread is so confusing, I thought it was JR that was from Lakewood, not KD

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3488 on: August 24, 2023, 01:05:30 PM »
I'm finished with this thread but I just want to say this.

The YU crowd always deals with a superior attitude by the Lithuanian yeshiva mentality.

As a result, YU might find it becoming to point out BMG related sins

Greater the man, greater the sin.. Moshe rabeinu's sin in hitting the rock was tiny.. in fact, prior to that incident, a prior time hashem did tell Moshe to hit the rock... But it was a lack of faith in God's word in speaking to the rock this time.

Everyone from Lakewood is saying it's a non issue, the guy's a nobody, he's a pariah etc .

As the author notes, not so, he is a somebody who he shares a name with .

Should he be called out ? I dunno... But the frum world always seems to call out anyone they disagree with...


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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3489 on: August 24, 2023, 01:14:34 PM »
I'm finished with this thread but I just want to say this.

The YU crowd always deals with a superior attitude by the Lithuanian yeshiva mentality.

As a result, YU might find it becoming to point out BMG related sins

Greater the man, greater the sin.. Moshe rabeinu's sin in hitting the rock was tiny.. in fact, prior to that incident, a prior time hashem did tell Moshe to hit the rock... But it was a lack of faith in God's word in speaking to the rock this time.

Everyone from Lakewood is saying it's a non issue, the guy's a nobody, he's a pariah etc .

As the author notes, not so, he is a somebody who he shares a name with .

Should he be called out ? I dunno... But the frum world always seems to call out anyone they disagree with...
If people need to be informed that something is wrong, it needs to be called out. I don't think anyone needs to be informed that this kind of behavior is unacceptable.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3490 on: August 24, 2023, 01:16:53 PM »
I don't really want to derail this thread
Looks like you forgot what thread this is :)
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3491 on: August 24, 2023, 01:32:37 PM »

he is a somebody who he shares a name with .


I'm not responding to your post but to this claim. As if sharing a name with someone or being related to someone is proof of anything. Guilt by association, involuntary association even more so, is such a vicious baseless claim, that it's a wonder an editor didn't read that and urge the author to remove it. It's the type of claim that would be decried as racist or bigoted when made by someone on "the other side". Legitimate criticism is often dismissed with the claim, "They're just haters". But this absurdity reveals the true motivation and intent behind any other claim is indeed pure bitter hatred.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3492 on: August 24, 2023, 03:52:45 PM »
Apparently in Israel itís a criminal offense. Almost carbon copy of a story except this guy was just arrested. American guy.
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-756071
« Last Edit: August 24, 2023, 03:56:18 PM by liosac »

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3493 on: August 24, 2023, 03:59:56 PM »
Apparently in Israel itís a criminal offense. Almost carbon copy of a story except this guy was just arrested. American guy.
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-756071

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3494 on: August 24, 2023, 07:20:15 PM »
I was also in yeshiva with KD. I'm not sure who I'm more embarrassed of
maybe you were hanging around in the wrong yeshivos

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3495 on: August 24, 2023, 07:34:47 PM »
the lake has boating?

why is most of the lake surrounded with trees, knock them down so we can enjoy the scene

(the other lake)

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3496 on: August 24, 2023, 07:36:10 PM »
the lake has boating?

why is most of the lake surrounded with trees, knock them down so we can enjoy the scene

(the other lake)
Get rid of the wood?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3497 on: August 24, 2023, 10:51:56 PM »
Apparently in Israel itís a criminal offense. Almost carbon copy of a story except this guy was just arrested. American guy.
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-756071
Oh man. I remember this guy from way back. So sad

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3498 on: August 24, 2023, 11:12:34 PM »
Apparently in Israel itís a criminal offense. Almost carbon copy of a story except this guy was just arrested. American guy.
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-756071
@yomo were in yeshiva with this guy as well?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3499 on: August 24, 2023, 11:14:41 PM »
maybe you were hanging around in the wrong yeshivos
BMG lol
Actually Pupko was with before BMG too