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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #120 on: February 29, 2016, 03:55:48 AM »
The best tip is to practise, every word of the megila is meakev so make sure you can read corrrectly every single word. There are different minhogim but most are the same by everyone.
•raise your voice by בלילה ההוא
•we repeat ואיש לא עמד בפינהם and להרוג ולאבד first time we say בפניהם second time לפניהם, first time להרוג second time ולהרוג.
• certain places we do eicho tune
• shake the megila by איגרת הזאת, איגרת הפורים הזאת.
Shulchan oruch mentions most of them so take a look.
• we make the last brocho davka before the megila is rolled up.
I'll write some more as I remember.
The bracha after megillah is made after its rolled up ?? u sure ? I recall the opposite.

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #121 on: February 29, 2016, 05:59:09 AM »

The bracha after megillah is made after its rolled up ?? u sure ? I recall the opposite.
He said before...

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #122 on: February 29, 2016, 07:35:24 AM »
After its rolled up but still on the Bima.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #123 on: February 29, 2016, 11:33:56 AM »
After its rolled up but still on the Bima.
Before specifically.

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #124 on: February 29, 2016, 12:03:46 PM »
Before specifically.
שו"ע א"ח תרצ:יז says clearly to roll it up first and then make the ברכה.
מ"ב ס"ק מז says דגנאי הוא למגילה שתהיה מונחת כך.

If you're trying to say that minhag Chabad is to do it before (which, of course, it is), say so explicitly. Especially since the one that asked the question is not Chabad.

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #125 on: February 29, 2016, 02:09:00 PM »
Been a ba'al koireh for for 12 years now.
The thing that bothers me the most is having someone correct you when it is not a problem at all.
Just this shabbos had a guy correct the ba'al koireh from "es" to "eis" wanted to kill the guy. Worst parshah for that every 2 frikin minutes.

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #126 on: February 29, 2016, 02:16:55 PM »
Been a ba'al koireh for for 12 years now.
The thing that bothers me the most is having someone correct you when it is not a problem at all.
Just this shabbos had a guy correct the ba'al koireh from "es" to "eis" wanted to kill the guy. Worst parshah for that every 2 frikin minutes.
Lol, that's literally the only example most people know is not me'akev.

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #127 on: February 29, 2016, 03:15:10 PM »
Been a ba'al koireh for for 12 years now.
The thing that bothers me the most is having someone correct you when it is not a problem at all.
Just this shabbos had a guy correct the ba'al koireh from "es" to "eis" wanted to kill the guy. Worst parshah for that every 2 frikin minutes.
I once Lained in Shomer Shabbos in BP unprepared since they were looking for a Baal Korei, and Moshe Metzger doesn't like to Lain if he doesn't absolutely have to. He stood right next to me and corrected every Es and Eis (don't recall which Parsha it was), when I finished I asked him nicely to please tell me the difference between the two, his response was "I don't know, but the Ruv (Rabbi Tyrnauer Zatzal, this was before he passed away) is very Makpid on this".
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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #128 on: February 29, 2016, 03:25:04 PM »
I once Lained in Shomer Shabbos in BP unprepared since they were looking for a Baal Korei, and Moshe Metzger doesn't like to Lain if he doesn't absolutely have to. He stood right next to me and corrected every Es and Eis (don't recall which Parsha it was), when I finished I asked him nicely to please tell me the difference between the two, his response was "I don't know, but the Ruv (Rabbi Tyrnauer Zatzal, this was before he passed away) is very Makpid on this".
The worst is when you not 100% prepared and someone corrects you gets you totally mixed up and then mess up way more times.
All of this is why when I lain and someone corrects me I decide on my own if they are right to make me go back and if they are not I just totally ignore them

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #129 on: February 29, 2016, 03:43:33 PM »
The worst is when you not 100% prepared and someone corrects you gets you totally mixed up and then mess up way more times.
All of this is why when I lain and someone corrects me I decide on my own if they are right to make me go back and if they are not I just totally ignore them
I've been doing that for a while already, if it's only a random voice I just ignore while slowing down in case it's a real issue and other people pipe up. But it's kinda hard to do that with Moshe Metzger barking at you
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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #130 on: February 29, 2016, 03:58:38 PM »
I've been doing that for a while already, if it's only a random voice I just ignore while slowing down in case it's a real issue and other people pipe up. But it's kinda hard to do that with Moshe Metzger barking at you
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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #131 on: February 29, 2016, 09:14:09 PM »
I've also heard באמרם/כאמרם
was just reading this. Rabbi Belsky Ztl was noheig just כאמרם

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #132 on: February 29, 2016, 09:18:21 PM »
The trop "yesiv" is always found on single-syllable words only. Additionally, the yesiv trop is written before the first letter of the (single-syllable) word. Also, every trop is appears in the taamei hamikra exactly the way it should be leined i.e. mil'el vs. milra etc. The only thing that doesn't match up is the name of the yesiv is a two-syllable word with the trop appearing between the two syllables which contradicts the actual trop.

R' Yaakov ZL therefore suggested that the actual name should be "tiv (siv)" with the trop appearing beforehand.
Just correcting that this is not wholly correct because the words שמן  and העל which we saw in recent weeks had a yesiv

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #133 on: February 29, 2016, 10:28:57 PM »
Just correcting that this is not wholly correct because the words שמן  and העל which we saw in recent weeks had a yesiv
Yup! Realized it during leining this Shabbos (the ha'al). I will have to go back to the source from whom I heard it (my krias hatorah rebbe) and see what's going on. (Didn't get around to posting it yet.)

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #134 on: March 01, 2016, 01:36:36 AM »
שו"ע א"ח תרצ:יז says clearly to roll it up first and then make the ברכה.
מ"ב ס"ק מז says דגנאי הוא למגילה שתהיה מונחת כך.

If you're trying to say that minhag Chabad is to do it before (which, of course, it is), say so explicitly. Especially since the one that asked the question is not Chabad.
The source is from chabad but I don't believe it's a minhag based thing. I'll bli neder look up the source and post later.