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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #135 on: March 01, 2016, 01:37:24 AM »
Been a ba'al koireh for for 12 years now.
The thing that bothers me the most is having someone correct you when it is not a problem at all.
Just this shabbos had a guy correct the ba'al koireh from "es" to "eis" wanted to kill the guy. Worst parshah for that every 2 frikin minutes.
True that it's not meakev, but nothing is wrong with wanting to have a perfect kria. If you've been laining for 12 years, then take him over

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #136 on: March 01, 2016, 05:39:40 AM »
He said before...
That's what I meant. anyhow I  make the bracha after its rolled.

aha. now I c that it's minhag chabad to make bracha b4.
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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #137 on: March 01, 2016, 05:45:06 AM »
was just reading this. Rabbi Belsky Ztl was noheig just כאמרם
Never heard beomrom ever (only heard and lained ashkenaz). It's not only rabbi belsky.

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #138 on: March 01, 2016, 06:33:06 AM »
True that it's not meakev, but nothing is wrong with wanting to have a perfect kria. If you've been laining for 12 years, then take him over
I beg to differ.
If it's not meakev them effectively this is a major tircha detzibura.
Why in the world does a person need a perfect kria more then what God said is perfect? No offense at all but what you said is what pisses me off most about this whole thing.
If it's someone that doesn't know the halachos that's one thing but if it's someone that's doing it because he believes that what God says is good is not good enough from him, I believe his hell is gonna be HOTTT

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #139 on: March 01, 2016, 08:50:23 AM »
I beg to differ.
If it's not meakev them effectively this is a major tircha detzibura.
Why in the world does a person need a perfect kria more then what God said is perfect? No offense at all but what you said is what pisses me off most about this whole thing.
If it's someone that doesn't know the halachos that's one thing but if it's someone that's doing it because he believes that what God says is good is not good enough from him, I believe his hell is gonna be HOTTT
The correct nekudois are also straight from har Sinai! The gehenoim for Kaas is worse...

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #140 on: March 01, 2016, 09:01:00 AM »
The correct nekudois are also straight from har Sinai! The gehenoim for Kaas is worse...
No Kaas involved here.
But major problems with people who think that being machmir on other peoples account in acceptable.
No matter if there is a better way if God said it's good and a person decides to do more and not everyone agrees with him on that, that is tircha detzibura. (Unless that is the shuls minhag).

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #141 on: March 01, 2016, 09:29:58 AM »
Never heard beomrom ever (only heard and lained ashkenaz). It's not only rabbi belsky.
Ive actually heard both. but i was just pointing out that rabbi belsky (and yes, as well as most baalei kriah) was noheig like that.

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #142 on: March 01, 2016, 10:34:18 AM »
The source is from chabad but I don't believe it's a minhag based thing. I'll bli neder look up the source and post later.
Chabad.org begs to differ:
Quote from: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2833170/jewish/Halachot-Uminhagim-Laws-and-Customs-of-Purim.htm
The Chabad custom is that the berachah is recited only by the reader. It is recited before the Megillah is rolled up and only when the Megillah is read in public (with a quorum of ten men).

(לוח חב"ד ושיחת כ"ק אדמו"ר פורים תשט"ז עמ' מ)
The point is, don't say 'everyone' when you really mean all Lubavitchers. Do you know of any kehillos other than Chabad that roll it up before?

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #143 on: March 01, 2016, 11:46:20 AM »
In Lakewood they roll up the megilla first.

The say ג:ד twice. First time באמרם second time כאמרם. The kuntres of Lakewood minhagim brings discussion on this from R'S. Miller in נטעי נאמנים תשסו and רבבות אפרים ח"ה או"ח תנא ב
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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #144 on: March 01, 2016, 01:35:54 PM »
I beg to differ.
If it's not meakev them effectively this is a major tircha detzibura.
Why in the world does a person need a perfect kria more then what God said is perfect? No offense at all but what you said is what pisses me off most about this whole thing.
If it's someone that doesn't know the halachos that's one thing but if it's someone that's doing it because he believes that what God says is good is not good enough from him, I believe his hell is gonna be HOTTT
No Kaas involved here.
But major problems with people who think that being machmir on other peoples account in acceptable.
No matter if there is a better way if God said it's good and a person decides to do more and not everyone agrees with him on that, that is tircha detzibura. (Unless that is the shuls minhag).
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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #145 on: March 01, 2016, 03:23:34 PM »
Just correcting that this is not wholly correct because the words שמן  and העל which we saw in recent weeks had a yesiv
and just remembered that עין also has a yesiv in parshas mishpatim

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #146 on: March 04, 2016, 11:06:52 AM »
Yup! Realized it during leining this Shabbos (the ha'al). I will have to go back to the source from whom I heard it (my krias hatorah rebbe) and see what's going on. (Didn't get around to posting it yet.)
Maybe he meant that a יתיב will always be on the first syllable?
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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #147 on: March 05, 2016, 09:18:53 PM »
Maybe he meant that a יתיב will always be on the first syllable?
That would make a lot of sense because the way we pronounce it when leining the taamei hamikra we put the meseg on the siv part not the ye part which differs from how we pronounce it when we lein.

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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
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Re: Laining/Baalei Kria
« Reply #149 on: March 10, 2016, 02:35:08 PM »

Can anyone tell which ksav this is?