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2.  a vs. an
3.  went vs. have gone
4. It's vs. Its
5. Affect vs. Effect
6.  Capital vs Capitol

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Author Topic: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101  (Read 24649 times)

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #180 on: April 30, 2019, 10:07:12 PM »
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #181 on: April 30, 2019, 10:47:33 PM »
Am I?

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You are right that you need this thread. That belongs in the grammar hall of shame thread.
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #182 on: June 20, 2019, 02:46:23 AM »
When quoting something ( not a sentence ), does the first letter need to be capitalized?

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #183 on: June 20, 2019, 04:09:46 AM »
When quoting something ( not a sentence ), does the first letter need to be capitalized?
Quotes should be copied exactly, capitalization included.  Any changes should be indicated with square brackets.  E.g., "[N]ew capitalization for use at the beginning of a sentence..."
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #184 on: June 21, 2019, 01:20:41 AM »
Quotes should be copied exactly, capitalization included.  Any changes should be indicated with square brackets.  E.g., "[N]ew capitalization for use at the beginning of a sentence..."
So if it's a partial quote and it's not capitalized, then I don't add capitalization, correct?
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #185 on: June 21, 2019, 10:14:20 AM »
So if it's a partial quote and it's not capitalized, then I don't add capitalization, correct?
correct

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #186 on: July 22, 2019, 01:25:01 PM »
https://youtu.be/G-HvhT8OPs0

Shouldn't it be, "If I am me"?
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #187 on: July 22, 2019, 09:39:09 PM »
https://youtu.be/G-HvhT8OPs0

Shouldn't it be, "If I am me"?
Syntactically, I think yes.

Similar structure, pronoun verb pronoun:
[If] she married me...
not
[If] she married I...
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #188 on: August 05, 2019, 02:38:31 PM »
Don’t know if this was mentioned but I came across Grammarly which is great. They have an app and an extension for chrome. It works wonders.

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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #189 on: August 05, 2019, 02:43:07 PM »
Don’t know if this was mentioned but I came across Grammarly which is great. They have an app and an extension for chrome. It works wonders.

Didn't even need to page @TimT to find

Grammarly is supposed to be a great and very advanced tool to help you out with all your needs in this area. Hope this helps someone.

I've been using it for a while and it's great. Catches lots of typos even before I see them :)
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #190 on: April 14, 2020, 01:04:00 AM »
Can some explain this to me? When to use "took or taken"?


Q -What is the difference between took and taken?

As an example assume a monkey is in a well, and someone is trying to say they would have taken the money out. Are both of these sentences grammatically correct?

I would have jumped in there and took the monkey out

or

I would have jumped in there and taken the monkey out.
 

A- There are some dialects where the simple past tense and the past participle are not distinguished (except in a few verbs). In those dialects, “I have took”, “I have gave”, “I have saw”, etc. are acceptable. These dialects are a minority, however. In the vast majority of dialects, the past tense is took/gave/saw, the past participle is taken/given/seen, and only the second of your examples is grammatical.

In reference to this post.
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #191 on: April 14, 2020, 01:38:31 AM »
Can some explain this to me? When to use "took or taken"?


Q -What is the difference between took and taken?

As an example assume a monkey is in a well, and someone is trying to say they would have taken the money out. Are both of these sentences grammatically correct?

I would have jumped in there and took the monkey out

or

I would have jumped in there and taken the monkey out.
 

A- There are some dialects where the simple past tense and the past participle are not distinguished (except in a few verbs). In those dialects, “I have took”, “I have gave”, “I have saw”, etc. are acceptable. These dialects are a minority, however. In the vast majority of dialects, the past tense is took/gave/saw, the past participle is taken/given/seen, and only the second of your examples is grammatical.
My skin is crawling to read "I have took" etc. 
1.  I jumped in there and took out the monkey OR
2.  I would have jumped in there and taken out the monkey. [You don't split up the prepositional verb (take + out).]

"1" is real, a simple past tense.  This is what I did.
"2" is unreal, a conditional form of an improbable scenario.  If....I would have...but it didn't happen so I didn't do it.



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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #192 on: April 14, 2020, 02:04:36 AM »
Taken is also used in 3rd person, eg: the money was taken before I got a chance to spend it.
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #193 on: April 14, 2020, 02:17:27 AM »
Taken is also used in 3rd person, eg: the money was taken before I got a chance to spend it.
In other (more correct) words, in the passive voice. I took the money vs. the money was taken by me.
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #194 on: April 14, 2020, 02:31:05 AM »
In other (more correct) words, in the passive voice. I took the money vs. the money was taken by me.
Right. So "I took the money" (1st person) or "he took the money" (2nd person) is active since we're discussing who did it. But "the money was taken by the robber" is passive since the subject of the sentence is the money, not the robber.
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #195 on: April 14, 2020, 06:34:08 PM »
My skin is crawling to read "I have took" etc. 
1.  I jumped in there and took out the monkey OR
2.  I would have jumped in there and taken out the monkey. [You don't split up the prepositional verb (take + out).]

"1" is real, a simple past tense.  This is what I did.
"2" is unreal, a conditional form of an improbable scenario.  If....I would have...but it didn't happen so I didn't do it.
Taken is also used in 3rd person, eg: the money was taken before I got a chance to spend it.
In other (more correct) words, in the passive voice. I took the money vs. the money was taken by me.
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  Sometimes it gets quite tricky when you can technically use either or.
 Yes, the above example wasn't exactly the best example.
Just to bring out my question.

   My grammar is not something to write home about.
  Any books out there not to complicated that you guys would recommend for some improvement?
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #196 on: April 17, 2020, 03:24:48 AM »
  Any books out there not to complicated that you guys would recommend for some improvement?
The St. Martin's Handbook (or just the internet).
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #197 on: April 28, 2020, 12:35:54 PM »
1. There is equipment in the building. The equipment is mine.

2. There are equipment in the building. The equipment are mine.

Which is correct? I can't explain why 2 would be correct but for some reason 1 doesn't sound right.
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #198 on: April 28, 2020, 12:39:03 PM »
1. There is equipment in the building. The equipment is mine.

2. There are equipment in the building. The equipment are mine.

Which is correct? I can't explain why 2 would be correct but for some reason 1 doesn't sound right.
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Re: Grammar and Spelling Lessons 101
« Reply #199 on: April 28, 2020, 12:57:01 PM »
1. There is equipment in the building. The equipment is mine.

2. There are equipment in the building. The equipment are mine.

Which is correct? I can't explain why 2 would be correct but for some reason 1 doesn't sound right.
Weird as I have no idea which is correct but 1 sounds right. Especially "The equipment is mine".
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