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Place with expired hashgacha
« on: January 17, 2016, 03:07:34 PM »
I just went to a restaurant in orlando
It has an expired hashgacha on the wall.

I mentioned it to him and he said because of politics from chabad in orlando he can't get a current hashgacha.

So why still have it up on the wall if he knows it expired ?
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2016, 03:08:46 PM »
Whoever issued the cert should not permit it to be displayed. Call them.
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2016, 03:09:47 PM »
Quote from: username on January 17, 2016, 03:08:46 PM
Whoever issued the cert should not permit it to be displayed. Call them.
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2016, 04:01:02 PM »
Quote from: Chief Rabbi of New York on January 17, 2016, 03:07:34 PM
I just went to a restaurant in orlando
It has an expired hashgacha on the wall.

I mentioned it to him and he said because of politics from chabad in orlando he can't get a current hashgacha.

So why still have it up on the wall if he knows it expired ?
Nice way of saying "I failed to meet the standards"?
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2016, 04:01:32 PM »
I forget with hecksher it was
It was for a place in orlando

He said he gets lots of business during yeshiva week coming up
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2016, 04:02:55 PM »
I think it was the rcf
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2016, 04:57:24 PM »
interesting as i just saw this at a place in Lakewood where the certificate was expired.
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2016, 05:07:33 PM »
Maybe this should be merged with this thread?
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2016, 05:08:56 PM »
FWIW- There are local Vaads that don't send out the new certificates on time resulting in expired ones on display.

I know of one for sure.
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2016, 05:18:16 PM »
Quote from: coralsnake on January 17, 2016, 05:08:56 PM
FWIW- There are local Vaads that don't send out the new certificates on time resulting in expired ones on display.

I know of one for sure.
Either that or they may have in the back and just didn't get a chance to hang it up and forgot. Just inquire within.
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2016, 05:19:36 PM »
It's not the rcf
But I'm not sure which one it is

He told me that the hasgachah won't renew his certificate

He told me that after I asked
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2016, 06:48:10 PM »
Quote from: Chief Rabbi of New York on January 17, 2016, 03:07:34 PM
I just went to a restaurant in orlando
It has an expired hashgacha on the wall.

I mentioned it to him and he said because of politics from chabad in orlando he can't get a current hashgacha.

So why still have it up on the wall if he knows it expired ?
Pizza/dairy place in someone's house?
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2016, 06:50:01 PM »
Quote from: Banillareloads on January 17, 2016, 06:48:10 PM
Pizza/dairy place in someone's house?

Yes

What do you know about it ?
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2016, 06:54:46 PM »
If were talking about the same place, I was there two years ago he had some kind of weird hechsher (Cup-k  :o). The combination of exhaustion and his convincing me somehow by showing me all the ingredients he was using for my pizza (which was delicious btw) led me to stay there as there were no other options at that late hour.
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2016, 07:43:14 PM »
probably means he owes them money if it was a kashrus issue the hechsher would take away the teudah
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2016, 07:43:37 PM »
Sounds like there is a lot of politics going on with kashrus on Orlando right now. No, I have zero inside info. I'm just saying this based on other things that I have seen on this forum lately about restaurants changing hechsherim. And now you mention this guy who knowingly hangs up an expired cert.

Basically, these places in MCO have ten days where they may make literally a third of their profit for a year. They need frum tourists to survive.

I have no advice other than to say clarify which place(s) you are willing to eat at BEFORE you head out on your excursions. It's no fun to try to figure out if you're eating kosher while standing in a parking lot and doing research on an iphone.
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2016, 09:01:03 PM »
Just curious if anyone is familiar with this so called cup-k hechsher?
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2016, 09:04:43 PM »

Quote from: Freddie on January 17, 2016, 07:43:37 PM
Sounds like there is a lot of politics going on with kashrus on Orlando right now. No, I have zero inside info. I'm just saying this based on other things that I have seen on this forum lately about restaurants changing hechsherim. And now you mention this guy who knowingly hangs up an expired cert.

Basically, these places in MCO have ten days where they may make literally a third of their profit for a year. They need frum tourists to survive.

I have no advice other than to say clarify which place(s) you are willing to eat at BEFORE you head out on your excursions. It's no fun to try to figure out if you're eating kosher while standing in a parking lot and doing research on an iphone.
I actually made some research before my trip and he had a legit looking website and reviews. It was only once I arrived to this place, a dark and quiet residential cul-de-sac that I turned to my wife and said "this is how people get killed". Until this owner came out in his shorts and sandals with his unassuming Israeli accent. He had this menu on a tablet, while we sat on his couch and quad chairs in his dining room. 'Twas an experience to say the least.
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2016, 09:07:30 PM »
Quote from: Banillareloads on January 17, 2016, 09:01:03 PM
Just curious if anyone is familiar with this so called cup-k hechsher?
Not an acceptable hechsher.
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Re: Place with expired hashgacha
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2016, 09:09:53 PM »

Quote from: Dan on January 17, 2016, 09:07:30 PM
Not an acceptable hechsher.
Care to elaborate?
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