Is Zika Changing How You Travel?

[Ergel]

Crazy. Although a lot of this will stop mattering for new Yorkers once it spreads to NY

[Yammer]

Crazy. Although a lot of this will stop mattering for new Yorkers once it spreads to NY

Not really. There is still a big difference  between Florida with 59 cases to Puerto Rico with 21,535 of locally acquired cases. And even then we're hitting winter, which will kill most of them here.

[12HRS]

Not really. There is still a big difference  between Florida with 59 cases to Puerto Rico with 21,535 of locally acquired cases. And even then we're hitting winter, which will kill most of them here.

and when next summer rolls around...

[asks]

and when next summer rolls around...

One year at a time...

[Yammer]

and when next summer rolls around...

They will have an anti Zika spray just like they had for West Nile virus and a Zika shot ( or whatever else it will be called) by then.

[Dan]

I doubt there will be a Zika vaccine in 2017.
2018 is more likely.

[@Yehuda]

Unbelievable.

The Maldives?? How does a mosquito even get to MLE? And even so, it must only be talking about mainland, right?

Thailand? Bali? Oiy. It's like the makos.

Once a mosquito is on MLE, it can't make the short jump to hotel islands?

[Yammer]

I doubt there will be a Zika vaccine in 2017.
2018 is more likely.

Yup your right

"The World Health Organization has said not to expect any sort of Zika vaccine to hit the market before mid-2018."


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/09/22/health/zika-vaccine-trial-soldier/index.html

[AJK]

Once a mosquito is on MLE, it can't make the short jump to hotel islands?

Nothing short about the jump (closest are like ~30 min boat rides, and others are 30-60 min plane rides), and mosquitoes are very susceptible to wind, so it's not like they're making the journey across the big blue yonder.

[@Yehuda]

Nothing short about the jump (closest are like ~30 min boat rides, and others are 30-60 min plane rides), and mosquitoes are very susceptible to wind, so it's not like they're making the journey across the big blue yonder.

They made their way among the Caribbean, though. Unless you mean there are no mosquitoes in MLE at all normally?

[Hershelsdeals]

They made their way among the Caribbean, though. Unless you mean there are no mosquitoes in MLE at all normally?

MLE is loaded with mosquitoes

[AJK]

Didn't have any when I was there.

Either way, I just don't understand how they get here:

[Yammer]

Didn't have any when I was there.

Either way, I just don't understand how they get here:

Perhaps they have DDFrs

[Something Fishy]

I had an interesting discussion last night with the crisis manager for the EPA in charge of the zika efforts in NY, NJ, FL, and the Caribbean (focusing mainly on PR and the USVI).

He says that the greatest public relations issue they have is people clamoring for them to basically slam all of PR with pesticides to simply eliminate all mosquitoes. What people don’t realize is that spraying pesticides all over a tiny island with 3.5 million people will cause far more harm than zika ever could. It will sicken young people, old people, poison the water supply, and so on. What they’re currently trying to do is targeted spraying to hopefully keep the mosquitoes in check, but the problem is that there simply isn’t time to develop complicated methods, and the problem is just growing larger and larger.

The USVI is faring much better than PR on paper, but that’s simply due to the fact that you have 100k people spread over three islands, compared to PR’s incredible population density.

He mentioned a very interesting point that I haven’t seen anywhere, that there are many resorts in the Caribbean that are technically quite safe. These properties manage their own pesticide program, pretty much eliminating the issue so long as you stay on-resort. But the quality and reliability of this method tends to vary quite a bit, so personally he says he doesn’t trust any of those.

The EPA expects zika to be a huge problem in NY and NJ by next summer, so they’re in high gear planning mode for that. Truth is though that there’s just not that much they could do to prevent or contain an outbreak.

Hawaii is not under his jurisdiction, but based on how the other Pacific islands are doing, he agrees that it’s just a matter of time.

[MC]

Hawaii is not under his jurisdiction, but based on how the other Pacific islands are doing, he agrees that it’s just a matter of time.

I just cried a little.

[@Yehuda]

Didn't have any when I was there.

Either way, I just don't understand how they get here:

Why is that different than going from S. America to Fiji and then to Thailand?

I just cried a little.

+1

[12HRS]

Once it's in ny/nj I wonder if the tourism to Florida will pick back up

[asks]

Once it's in ny/nj I wonder if the tourism to Florida will pick back up

Nothing happening till next summer at the earliest.

[Ergel]

I had an interesting discussion last night with the crisis manager for the EPA in charge of the zika efforts in NY, NJ, FL, and the Caribbean (focusing mainly on PR and the USVI).
....

Very informative.

Curious what will happen once it spreads to NYC. Will people start to travel to places they stopped traveling to because it appears anyways?
Will people from areas not effected (like YYZ) stop traveling to NYC?

[Joe4007]

Why is that different than going from S. America to Fiji and then to Thailand?

He's talking about Mosquitoes, not Zika per se.