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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #100 on: January 28, 2016, 12:08:21 AM »
I don't think any one really thinks you are wrong, but the way you posted the whole story with all caps and emotion you brought into it can turn people off.

Starting a thead title with "HELP" in caps is a huge read flag that OP is a nOOn and doesn't know what he's talking about.

I personally think you do what you are talking about, but you are just not presenting yourself  in a professional matter rather like someone asking compensation for having to sit next to a crying baby, which most people aren'tinterested in hearing.


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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #101 on: January 28, 2016, 12:16:59 AM »
I don't think any one really thinks you are wrong, but the way you posted the whole story with all caps and emotion you brought into it turned me off.

Starting a thead title with "HELP" in caps is a huge read flag that OP is a nOOn and doesn't know what he's talking about.

I personally think you do what you are talking about, but you are just not presenting yourself  in a professional matter rather like someone asking compensation for having to sit next to a crying baby, which most people aren'tinterested in hearing.
FTFY. Everyone here knows that I was not born today. Everyone here knows that when I open threads I am not posting in caps. I was in a lost situation and I was in a fight with the clock because I wanted to get this fixes before check-in closes and I was not going to change it all to non caps.  Sorry if that bothered you though.


I personally think you do what you are talking about,.
Thank you  :)

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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #102 on: January 28, 2016, 12:46:49 AM »


Yes and yes, Meir613 gave a rant when I repeated my self last time so i will not repeat it again,  ;) but check back in the thread. I sent over documentation of all the tickets to a member in this thread.

Can you send it to me as well?


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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #103 on: January 28, 2016, 12:56:49 AM »

Can you send it to me as well?
Done.
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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #104 on: January 28, 2016, 01:16:12 AM »
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Hi I just spoke to ronnie, He has a copy of the ticket. UA did not revalidate the ticket in F class, he was on the phone with nyc city office and it was confrimed by them that it was not revlated in F class

Ronnei told someone two days ago that he will show him a copy of the ticket showing that the pax was not ticketed in F. We are still waiting.

Oh, and Ronnei, I also know that you can edit anything in GDS anytime and just take a screenshot. Remember we are not idiots. We  will need solid documents. Don't try selling the public the same crap you sold me over the phone. Unless you wanna look like Her. Thanks.

If you had prepared to show for the podium the attachment below where it says Y, please note that I already did that. Manually.
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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #105 on: January 28, 2016, 08:54:54 AM »
I don't think any one really thinks you are wrong, but the way you posted the whole story with all caps and emotion you brought into itcan turn people off.

This acutely turns me on, the felling that your right and someone that's bigger then you takes advantage thinking he will get away just motivates me to action.

As someone who lived in Israel and the US I can say that in Israel big entities really take advantage of ppl. In the US its mostly the government agencies that act that way like police, IRS ..... but in Israel I had to sue the private gas company to get a document there required to give me by law, and they replied we gave to him here you have it again.

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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #106 on: January 28, 2016, 09:58:35 AM »
My 2 cents is that by now since it's over advise the poster defending el al what you need for closure
(Bag fees, difference in points, etc.) as it doesn't look like you will see an apology.

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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #107 on: January 28, 2016, 10:47:29 AM »
i had same story when Lufthansa was on strike they re booked me and my wife on elal from lax and thay denied me boarding even after confirming with the elal call center that the ticket is valid there was still no one to talk to at the airport, then i asked them to buy a cash ticket just to find out that thay are fully booked
up to today after 2 month's i still didn't get a normal response from elal

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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #108 on: January 28, 2016, 10:58:37 AM »
Never knew that one airline could print a BP for another airline, even they are very close

Perhaps I learn new things every day.

I thought you probably forgot the details etc.
I also once flew from TLV-LHR on LY and continued LHR-JFK on AA on one ticket. LY gave me both BPes. I left the airport in LHR, when I came back I got through security with that BP but when I got to the gate they said that I'm not checked in on AA if I don't have an AA BP. Luckily he was able to check me in at the gate since my luggage was checked through from TLV-JFK.

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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #109 on: January 28, 2016, 11:11:18 AM »
i had same story when Lufthansa was on strike they re booked me and my wife on elal from lax and thay denied me boarding even after confirming with the elal call center that the ticket is valid there was still no one to talk to at the airport, then i asked them to buy a cash ticket just to find out that thay are fully booked
up to today after 2 month's i still didn't get a normal response from elal
I think I heard about that story. Were you the one who flew BA in the end?

What was LYs official reason?
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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #110 on: January 28, 2016, 12:29:40 PM »
I think I heard about that story. Were you the one who flew BA in the end?

What was LYs official reason?
i actually flew united to London and continued on sunday to tlv
they told me that there's no ticket, i should go to Lufthansa's desk and bring the ticket from them

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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #111 on: January 28, 2016, 12:38:56 PM »
i actually flew united to London and continued on sunday to tlv
they told me that there's no ticket, i should go to Lufthansa's desk and bring the ticket from them
Were you able to check in online? Who was the ticketing carrier, LH or UA?
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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #112 on: January 28, 2016, 01:14:22 PM »
Were you able to check in online? Who was the ticketing carrier, LH or UA?
lh, i actually came from las checked in with united to lax they couldn't give me bp for elal but they gave me a pass to pick up bp, online check in was not possible since they booked me when i was on the way to airport, i was able to make modifications to the booking online

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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #113 on: January 28, 2016, 01:34:19 PM »
lh, i actually came from las checked in with united to lax they couldn't give me bp for elal but they gave me a pass to pick up bp, online check in was not possible since they booked me when i was on the way to airport, i was able to make modifications to the booking online
Did you see the UA ticket number on the elal? That's what you should always be looking for.
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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #114 on: January 28, 2016, 01:42:56 PM »
i had same story when Lufthansa was on strike they re booked me and my wife on elal from lax and thay denied me boarding even after confirming with the elal call center that the ticket is valid there was still no one to talk to at the airport, then i asked them to buy a cash ticket just to find out that thay are fully booked
up to today after 2 month's i still didn't get a normal response from elal

Filed with the DOT?

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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #115 on: February 01, 2016, 09:00:36 AM »
@iherman  Filed with DOT?

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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #116 on: February 01, 2016, 09:32:08 AM »
Well, to be honest I have to write up the whole story in details and I just didn't get a chance this week. Hopefully this week I'yh.
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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #117 on: February 02, 2016, 06:00:54 PM »

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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #118 on: February 02, 2016, 08:37:02 PM »
Here's the Israeli law on the matter in English published by United.
https://www.united.com/web/format/pdf/travel/destination/international/Notice-for-customers-traveling-to-or-from-Israel-English.pdf

As this is a award class and reissued by ua it's not clear how to calculate the base fare, is it what he paid ua or is it what ua paid LY.

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Re: HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON
« Reply #119 on: February 03, 2016, 05:12:30 PM »
As this is a award class and reissued by ua it's not clear how to calculate the base fare, is it what he paid ua or is it what ua paid LY.
I've read through the topic in the Hebrew text of the law and I don't think that point is addressed there.