Author Topic: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech  (Read 80893 times)

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #160 on: January 28, 2016, 01:45:09 AM »
He never said anything like that or even Implied  that so my questions still stand
He actually did.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #161 on: January 28, 2016, 01:47:03 AM »
He actually did.
No comment on the speech, but +1. That whole Ani Maamin bit.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #162 on: January 28, 2016, 02:01:12 AM »
He paints all 50,000 residents of Lakewood with one big brush as being judgmental and elitist. He makes massive generalizations - "nobody here (in Lakewood) gives or gets any slack", "all have an opinion on every single person they ever come into contact with", "All judging each other", "I and other people feel like we're being judged by a sanhedrin of 50,000 people in Lakewood".

Besides for the fact that he sounded like a 2 year old painting everyone with one big brush, he also possibly committed the biggest act of Lashon Hara in world history. The video has 66,000 views in 3 days!

I believe his speech is a product of 3 things.

1 -  a genuine care for the children who have a hard time with schools.
2 - like CBC said already -
He blames his inferiority feelings amongst yeshiva guys on their elitist attitude.

Meh.
3 - misinformation. He is surrounded by ppl who kush his ____, and tell him what he wants to hear. And they all told him that his speech was great, and every word was true.


I hope the rumors of an apology are true.
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #163 on: January 28, 2016, 02:33:15 AM »
He actually did.
Tell me how?
No comment on the speech, but +1. That whole Ani Maamin bit.
If you @baruch mean this  it doesn't show that in the slightest
BTW I'm curious, do you people think there is no issue and everything is fine?
(I'm not saying that in other communities its better or worse) but don't say "just because there is a bigger or whatever issue, we are ok". There is a major issue that has to be fixed and if people can't see it, they are the problem!

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #164 on: January 28, 2016, 02:42:01 AM »
Tell me how?If you @baruch mean this  it doesn't show that in the slightest
BTW I'm curious, do you people think there is no issue and everything is fine?
(I'm not saying that in other communities its better or worse) but don't say "just because there is a bigger or whatever issue, we are ok". There is a major issue that has to be fixed and if people can't see it, they are the problem!

The question is what the exact issue is.
Most of the problem has to do with lack of space, while he blames ALL Lakewood residents attitudes for ALL of the issues.
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #165 on: January 28, 2016, 02:48:29 AM »
The question is what the exact issue is.
Most of the problem has to do with lack of space, while he blames ALL Lakewood residents attitudes for ALL of the issues.
Well he does mention that he and others are willing to give money, so if its a space problem money solves that.
Let's see the roshei mosdos come out and say we need more money to expand so we can accept these families. So far I have not heard that from one Rosh hmosed even though he already said he's willing to give.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #166 on: January 28, 2016, 07:49:15 AM »
What would rechnitz say?


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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #168 on: January 28, 2016, 08:28:42 AM »
How many people are there in Lakewood in their 50's that are still learning? What is the percentage?
Not sure but ppl in ther 50s have their parents still supporting them possibly. But cant support the next gen. You cant really have 10 gens in a row learning.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #169 on: January 28, 2016, 08:31:30 AM »
How many people are there in Lakewood in their 50's that are still learning? What is the percentage?
Learning in kollel ft? Miniscule. Rabbeim, Roshei mesivtas, rabbonim plenty.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #171 on: January 28, 2016, 08:57:39 AM »

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #172 on: January 28, 2016, 09:08:04 AM »
Learning in kollel ft? Miniscule. Rabbeim, Roshei mesivtas, rabbonim plenty.
How many ppl can be rabbeim? 1 in 20?

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #173 on: January 28, 2016, 09:31:15 AM »
+1
pretty bad argument. Kids not in school is a community issue. His business is his business. He can not hire someone because he doesnt like his noose. You cannt not accept a kid because of that reason.

"Is every child entitled to a place in a school? Perhaps, but that is not each individual school’s problem. Neither is it each individual parent’s problem. In Lakewood, you take care of your own life first before looking out for your neighbor."

Really is this what lkwd is all about everyone fight for themselves and dont give a **** about anyone else? and whos problem is it then?

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #174 on: January 28, 2016, 09:32:22 AM »
https://medium.com/@kollelguy/why-rechnitz-can-t-do-math-3c1e90b80acf#.e2lxufpeb
"In Lakewood, you take care of your own life first before looking out for your neighbor."

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #175 on: January 28, 2016, 09:35:54 AM »
"In Lakewood, you take care of your own life first before looking out for your neighbor."
Clearly since ther is still such a major issue he meant -

"In Lakewood, you take care of your own life AND DONT look  out for your neighbor."

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #176 on: January 28, 2016, 09:36:46 AM »

"In Lakewood, you take care of your own life first before looking out for your neighbor."
-1
They do that everywhere

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #177 on: January 28, 2016, 09:38:07 AM »
-1
They do that everywhere
even if they do it doesnt make it right just because they do it everywhere.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #178 on: January 28, 2016, 09:39:42 AM »


He paints all 50,000 residents of Lakewood with one big brush as being judgmental and elitist. He makes massive generalizations - "nobody here (in Lakewood) gives or gets any slack", "all have an opinion on every single person they ever come into contact with", "All judging each other", "I and other people feel like we're being judged by a sanhedrin of 50,000 people in Lakewood".


The generalization may be huge, but you wouldn't feel that there is a huge number of people who act like that?

I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #179 on: January 28, 2016, 09:41:28 AM »

even if they do it doesnt make it right just because they do it everywhere.
But don't make it into a lkwd issue.

And btw, it is right. חייך קודם

That's not to say you shouldn't care and do your best to help, which is exactly what most ppl do, by trying to get other people in if they can, and by opening more schools