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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #200 on: January 28, 2016, 10:39:00 AM »
Tell me how?
Watch the speech again. He said something like "G-d has to be put back into the picture in Lakewood", and a few more things along those lines.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #201 on: January 28, 2016, 10:40:45 AM »
The problem is all the illegals coming in to Lakewood from Brooklyn and other out of town places. So the only solution is to build a wall! We are going to build a wall to keep all the undesirables out!! And we won't even pay for the wall, we'll get Rechnitz to pay for the wall! And it'll be the biggest most beautiful wall you ever saw!! (life imitating.....)

For the inevitable few who don't figure it out, this was a joke, sarcasm font and all... Or was it?  ;)

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #202 on: January 28, 2016, 10:43:44 AM »
The problem is all the illegals coming in to Lakewood from Brooklyn and other out of town places. So the only solution is to build a wall! We are going to build a wall to keep all the undesirables out!! And we won't even pay for the wall, we'll get Rechnitz to pay for the wall! And it'll be the biggest most beautiful wall you ever saw!! (life imitating.....)

For the inevitable few who don't figure it out, this was a joke, sarcasm font and all... Or was it?  ;)
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #203 on: January 28, 2016, 10:46:31 AM »
The problem is all the illegals coming in to Lakewood from Brooklyn and other out of town places. So the only solution is to build a wall! We are going to build a wall to keep all the undesirables out!! And we won't even pay for the wall, we'll get Rechnitz to pay for the wall! And it'll be the biggest most beautiful wall you ever saw!! (life imitating.....)

For the inevitable few who don't figure it out, this was a joke, sarcasm font and all... Or was it?  ;)

Will there be a big, beautiful door in the wall?

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #204 on: January 28, 2016, 10:49:56 AM »
So be it.

Harav shteinman shlita once asked a well known rosh mosod how much of his motivation is לשם שמים, and he admitted that he was about 30% שלא לשמה..
Harav  Shteinman answered it's a pity you aren't 100% שלא לשמה, then you would be doing an even better job!
Because then he's actually saying the truth

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #205 on: January 28, 2016, 10:52:36 AM »
Watch the speech again. He said something like "G-d has to be put back into the picture in Lakewood", and a few more things along those lines.
When I have the time I will listen to it again
But let's assume he did say that, does that throw his whole speech out? is everything he said complete and utter fabrications?

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #206 on: January 28, 2016, 10:57:45 AM »

The generalization may be huge, but you wouldn't feel that there is a huge number of people who act like that?
There are people everywhere who are judgmental of other people's lifestyles.
When an LA girl who flipped out, comes back for Pesach with her husband in Kollel for 15 years, and her 9 kids (oldest 13) are wearing hand me downs, there are some in LA who will be judgmental, and some who won't.

Every society has some people who don't give slack. Lakewood is no better. Being that Rechnitz fits in in LA, no one is judgmental of him there.

The funniest thing is that his whole speech was judgmental of Lakewood.

May his many zechusim protect him, he committed a massive sin IMHO.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #207 on: January 28, 2016, 10:59:11 AM »
When I have the time I will listen to it again
But let's assume he did say that, does that throw his whole speech out? is everything he said complete and utter fabrications?

As one op-ed wrote-
It's a mixture of truths, half truths, and compete fabrications.
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #208 on: January 28, 2016, 10:59:44 AM »
So be it.

Harav shteinman shlita once asked a well known rosh mosod how much of his motivation is לשם שמים, and he admitted that he was about 30% שלא לשמה..
Harav  Shteinman answered it's a pity you aren't 100% שלא לשמה, then you would be doing an even better job!
That story is commonly said with a gevir, not a rosh hamosad.....
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #209 on: January 28, 2016, 11:01:09 AM »
There are people everywhere who are judgmental of other people's lifestyles.
When an LA girl who flipped out, comes back for Pesach with her husband in Kollel for 15 years, and her 9 kids (oldest 13) are wearing hand me downs, there are some in LA who will be judgmental, and some who won't.

Every society has some people who don't give slack. Lakewood is no better. Being that Rechnitz fits in in LA, no one is judgmental of him there.

The funniest thing is that his whole speech was judgmental of Lakewood.

May his many zechusim protect him, he committed a massive sin IMHO.
arent learning ppl supposed to be better? and the main point is in lkwd its way worse and now its effecting our kids getting into schools! elsewhere its not.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #210 on: January 28, 2016, 11:01:23 AM »
That story is commonly said with a gevir, not a rosh hamosad.....
I think Reb Shalom Ber Sorotzkin says it about himself. (He has a huge network of kollelim)

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #211 on: January 28, 2016, 11:02:06 AM »
As one op-ed wrote-
It's a mixture of truths, half truths, and compete fabrications.
his main takeaway points are still ther.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #212 on: January 28, 2016, 11:03:21 AM »
his main takeaway points are still ther.

Nope.
If the main issue is lack of space, he missed the mark by a long shot.
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #213 on: January 28, 2016, 11:03:30 AM »
arent learning ppl supposed to be better? and the main point is in lkwd its way worse and now its effecting our kids getting into schools! elsewhere its not.
getting a dirty look when you goto la is not a big deal just swallow it and move on but if your kid cant get into school because if it its very diff.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #214 on: January 28, 2016, 11:03:40 AM »
arent learning ppl supposed to be better? and the main point is in lkwd its way worse and now its effecting our kids getting into schools! elsewhere its not.
If you learn Torah and don't learn Mussar you won't be better.
There are some who are judgmental, and some who aren't. I don't think Lakewood is any worse than anywhere else.


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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #215 on: January 28, 2016, 11:04:14 AM »
As one op-ed wrote-
It's a mixture of truths, half truths, and compete fabrications.
Who? A Rosh hamosed of course he will try to cover his a** he doesn't want to be projected in a negative light no matter how true it is

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #216 on: January 28, 2016, 11:05:33 AM »
Who? A Rosh hamosed of course he will try to cover his a** he doesn't want to be projected in a negative light no matter how true it is

I don't care who wrote it, I reposted because I agree.
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #217 on: January 28, 2016, 11:05:51 AM »
Nope.
If the main issue is lack of space, he missed the mark by a long shot.
Maybe the issue is a lack of space because no one wants to open a school in lkwd because no one in lkwd wants to goto a new school beacuse of elitism?

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #218 on: January 28, 2016, 11:07:42 AM »
Maybe the issue is a lack of space because no one wants to open a school in lkwd because no one in lkwd wants to goto a new school beacuse of elitism?

New schools open up every year.
It's obvious you're clueless about Lakewood;
the typical guy bashing it mindlessly.
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #219 on: January 28, 2016, 11:08:35 AM »
I don't care who wrote it, I reposted because I agree.
Well it sure does make a difference who writes something. if it is someone who had/has trouble getting his kids into schools then you're right, but not one of these families say it so it's biased in the least