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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #400 on: January 31, 2016, 07:10:45 PM »
Umm, isn't that your response? That I should be allowed to choose the best for my kid?
It actually happens to be my position too. I'm pretty impressed. - not sure about his proposals.

Regardless, I just find the whole argument between Rechnitz and Rich about Lakewood to be hilarious.

With all due respect to them both.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #401 on: January 31, 2016, 07:38:48 PM »


It actually happens to be my position too. I'm pretty impressed.
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #402 on: January 31, 2016, 07:39:48 PM »
Oh no - what have u done wrong??

Not sure – don't think I've ever visited this site.
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #403 on: January 31, 2016, 07:42:40 PM »
Not sure – don't think I've ever visited this site.
I went to that site first time from work and said the same thing

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #404 on: January 31, 2016, 07:53:33 PM »
maybe he first consulted his shver just like yisro did

No, Yisro was the shver.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #405 on: January 31, 2016, 07:55:43 PM »
It actually happens to be my position too. I'm pretty impressed. - not sure about his proposals.
Regardless, I just find the whole argument between Rechnitz and Rich about Lakewood to be hilarious.
With all due respect to them both.
EXCLUSIVE: Refining Rechnitz Targeting – by Richard H. Roberts, M.D., Ph.D. -
...... is not due to arrogance, a lack of caring, or elitism. It is due to a desire to insulate pure souls, during their developmental years, from secular values and the pervasive electronic media which pushes those secular values in tempting and seductive packaging to children who do not yet understand the world around them.

Intel makes computer chips, and pharmaceutical companies make injectable drugs, in absolutely pure environments since introduction of contaminants during the formation process can ruin the resultant product. The more contaminants there are the greater the risk of a faulty product that is supposed to perform correctly when launched into the world.

Many people in Lakewood accept a life of severe economic hardship to live and raise their families in a pure Torah environment.... it is to protect the success of their most important product, their children.

During adolescence, children are developing their own identities separate from their parents and within the context of the group that surrounds them (which is a child’s society). The degree that secular values are permitted to enter that child’s society is an increased level of risk that the child’s development will be distracted or derailed from Torah values.


interesting how the Lubavitcher Rebbe sent young families, including impressionable young children and rabbis to assimilated places in the 1970's and 1980's to locations such as Hawaii, Las Vegas, Sweden, Thailand, etc.. to build new open schools where their own Chassidic children would be blended into classes with non-Shabbat observing/Kosher keeping students. The key was to always be above the crowd and to be the 'teacher'/'influencer' instead of being taught/influenced.

It takes strength and constant learning, and yet it's possible to be raised in places like that and remain a "Yosef" in our generation and stronger than if we had remained in a 100% orthodox environment.
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #406 on: January 31, 2016, 08:12:24 PM »
Not sure – don't think I've ever visited this site.
It's nothing. Happens all the time for some reason. Just flip airplane mode on and off.

If its your home network I guess you can shoot them an email

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #407 on: January 31, 2016, 08:35:37 PM »
This.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #408 on: January 31, 2016, 08:41:54 PM »
Heard R U R speech. שפתיים ישק

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #409 on: January 31, 2016, 09:12:15 PM »
Heard R U R speech. שפתיים ישק
Where can you hear it?

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #410 on: January 31, 2016, 09:14:24 PM »



It takes strength and constant learning, and yet it's possible to be raised in places like that and remain a "Yosef" in our generation and stronger than if we had remained in a 100% orthodox environment.
Lakewood is the quintessential Yehuda and you're asking it to be a Yosef.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #411 on: January 31, 2016, 09:15:23 PM »
This.
Right back at ya...

Keep in mind that in Lakewood, the 'modernish' aren't all that bad. Their mothers don't wear pant and uncover their hair.  The families are good frum families and keep strictly kosher. But nebach he works and/or doesn't wear a white shirt  (remind me where that siman is in ShuA??) and was spotted in Bagel Nosh without his hat on so his kid will probably be a bad influence on mine.

Huh??
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #412 on: January 31, 2016, 09:34:26 PM »


Right back at ya...

Keep in mind that in Lakewood, the 'modernish' aren't all that bad. Their mothers don't wear pant and uncover their hair.  The families are good frum families and keep strictly kosher. But nebach he works and/or doesn't wear a white shirt  (remind me where that siman is in ShuA??) and was spotted in Bagel Nosh without his hat on so his kid will probably be a bad influence on mine.

Huh??

They don't wear pants but some don't cover their knees. - don't keep shulchan oruch.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #413 on: January 31, 2016, 09:37:03 PM »

They don't wear pants but some don't cover their knees. - don't keep shulchan oruch.
Were aren't talking about that we'rr talking about that yeshvish guy who was in kollel for a few years extremely erlich then went work.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #414 on: January 31, 2016, 09:38:05 PM »
Were aren't talking about that we'rr talking about that yeshvish guy who was in kollel for a few years extremely erlich then went work.
Wait a minute - is his wife's skirt 5 inches below or 3???   :D

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #415 on: January 31, 2016, 09:46:25 PM »
Were aren't talking about that we'rr talking about that yeshvish guy who was in kollel for a few years extremely erlich then went work.
Well I'm talking about the few who couldn't care less for kollel, Torah learning and learners, and tznius. - They do exist.

Not the many "tzadikim" that everyone portrays as the ari shbachabura that nebach went to work bla bla. Spare me.

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #416 on: January 31, 2016, 09:53:24 PM »
Well I'm talking about the few who couldn't care less for kollel, Torah learning and learners, and tznius. - They do exist.

Not the many "tzadikim" that everyone portrays as the ari shbachabura that nebach went to work bla bla. Spare me.
The few that couldn't care less no one is arguing about. They should not get into the top schools

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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #417 on: January 31, 2016, 09:54:04 PM »
Well I'm talking about the few who couldn't care less for kollel, Torah learning and learners, and tznius. - They do exist.

Not the many "tzadikim" that everyone portrays as the ari shbachabura that nebach went to work bla bla. Spare me.
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #418 on: January 31, 2016, 09:55:29 PM »


Right back at ya...

Keep in mind that in Lakewood, the 'modernish' aren't all that bad. Their mothers don't wear pant and uncover their hair.  The families are good frum families and keep strictly kosher. But nebach he works and/or doesn't wear a white shirt  (remind me where that siman is in ShuA??) and was spotted in Bagel Nosh without his hat on so his kid will probably be a bad influence on mine.

Huh??

Ha. I always have a hard time when someone in Lakewood is talking to me about a modern person, and describes a normal jew. Then I remember (for examples sake) that modern in my head is more like a Lawrence modern (in that case I'm very yeshivish ). The Lakewood modern starts soon after the eating cholov stam level.
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Re: Rechnitz's Lakewood Speech
« Reply #419 on: January 31, 2016, 09:56:14 PM »
. The Lakewood modern starts soon after the eating cholov stam level.
Way before that! :)