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Approximate Points and Miles valuations when selling to a broker*
Numbers in parentheses are (more) desirable account sizes.


Edit and add accordingly, but all edits *must* be based off of factual transactions that took place in the last 60 days.

Credit card, (unit), and transferable points:

SPG (SPG)             -1.8-2.1
Chase CLEAN [UP TO 200K](UR)           - 1.3
Chase UR-UR              -1.25
Diners Club (CR)   - 1.5
Amex (MR)            - 1.35
Amex (MR) BP 50% - 1.6-1.7
Amex (MR) BP 35% - ??
Citi (TY)                 - 1.2 small / Big 1.4
WF                        -1.51
Airline miles:

A3 - 1.6 (30,45,60)
AS - 2    (90
AS - 1.5 (50, 70, 75 100)
FB - 1.35 (125k)
LH - 1.4 - 1.6   (17, 52/55, 85
UA - 1.3-1.45    (12.5k, 25k, 30k, 50k, 57.5k, 60k, 70k, 80k, 110k
SQ - 1.2    (37.5, 57.5, 68, 75
AA - 1.2 small accounts 55, 62.5, 67.5 ect.
AA - 1.3    (110, 120
AC - 1.2
DL - 1.1
WN - 1.05
VS - ??
VX - 1.6-1.65
B6 - 1
BA - 1.05
HA - 0.6
QF: 1.35-1.45
NH/ANA - ?.?     (136
Hotel points:
(Status may increase the value)
SPG - 1.8-2.1 (20k increments are best)
Hyatt - 1.2-1.3
Wyndham - 0.7
Choice - 0.6
Marriott - 0.55-.7
IHG - 0.3
Hilton - 0.3
Club Carlson - 0.3

Airline And Travel Related Acronyms
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13317.0

*These valuations assume the account has between 50k and 150k miles/points.

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Author Topic: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED  (Read 419430 times)

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2540 on: August 23, 2019, 02:04:44 PM »
i meant an actual seller willing to transfer i know the price i just cant find a seller

Because the max annual transfer is 100k.  So even if, for example, I'd want to sell I can't transfer because I already did the 100k max for this year.  So I'm sure there may be many who would sell but can't transfer due to already reaching the limit.

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2541 on: August 23, 2019, 02:09:19 PM »
fwiw..recent data points from churningmarketplace subreddit, blocks of 50k +

Marriott..offers 0.65, sellers 0.75 - 0.8

Hilton..  0.0035

Hyatt  0.018

Hilton is the only number here that is somewhat on target.

Most I've seen anyone pay for Marriott is .006, on average they go for .0055.

Any who would pay that for Hyatt???  You can even buy UR for less and transfer to Hyatt.

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2542 on: August 25, 2019, 05:18:12 AM »
I understand no selling allowed, but where can i find a reliable broker to sell based on the rates above?

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2543 on: August 25, 2019, 09:57:23 AM »
I understand no selling allowed, but where can i find a reliable broker to sell based on the rates above?
You canít. Thats an end user, and i doubt its accurate.

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2544 on: August 26, 2019, 12:05:41 PM »
Whats IHG worth?

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2545 on: August 26, 2019, 12:40:35 PM »
what are amex m.r. points worth these days? I heard they are getting devalued soon or something like that? is that true? I have 7 digits of amex m.r.

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2546 on: August 26, 2019, 04:34:49 PM »
what are amex m.r. points worth these days? I heard they are getting devalued soon or something like that? is that true? I have 7 digits of amex m.r.

just sold 7 digit of amex m.r. to a broker at 1.26

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2547 on: August 26, 2019, 04:36:55 PM »
just sold 7 digit of amex m.r. to a broker at 1.26
Ouch but that is what you get from brokers.
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2548 on: August 26, 2019, 04:46:16 PM »
just sold 7 digit of amex m.r. to a broker at 1.26
BP?

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2549 on: August 26, 2019, 11:33:56 PM »
BP?
If yes then that was a poor rate since you can use it yourself to buy tickets at a value of 1.5+. They give back up to 500k points so you would need to have points in excess of ~1.43m for it to become less valuable than 1.5.

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2550 on: August 27, 2019, 12:12:31 AM »
If yes then that was a poor rate since you can use it yourself to buy tickets at a value of 1.5+. They give back up to 500k points so you would need to have points in excess of ~1.43m for it to become less valuable than 1.5.
Uhm yes, because brokers pay the redemption value
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2551 on: August 27, 2019, 01:35:45 AM »
just sold 7 digit of amex m.r. to a broker at 1.26
That's actually not bad for such a high amount right now.
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2552 on: August 28, 2019, 06:26:36 PM »
That's actually not bad for such a high amount right now.
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2553 on: August 29, 2019, 08:06:58 AM »
Is MT projected to be worth less then .06 because of their redemption changes? Sitting on a few accounts with 100k, wondering if now is the opportune time to cash out.

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2554 on: August 29, 2019, 08:10:44 AM »
Whatís Delta selling for under the new promo? Have two accounts with 135k each.

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2555 on: August 29, 2019, 08:59:09 PM »
If I transferred MR points to my FF account (BA), would brokers not be willing to buy, or pay less?

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2556 on: August 29, 2019, 09:25:40 PM »
Is MT projected to be worth less then .06 because of their redemption changes? Sitting on a few accounts with 100k, wondering if now is the opportune time to cash out.

IMHO points/miles are constantly being devalued because of various factors. It certainly won't be getting higher than it is now; might stay the same, might not. If you have no plans for future use then now is as good a time as anywhere in the future to sell.

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2557 on: September 01, 2019, 05:05:27 PM »
Anyone have current data points on wyndham points value?

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2558 on: September 02, 2019, 03:20:42 PM »
 Do you think AMEX points are going to become more valuable or less valuable to people that are still able to sell their points? After the lack of being able to transfer to new users for 2 months goes in effect?

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #2559 on: September 02, 2019, 03:29:40 PM »
Current value of AA 160K and DW's AA 60K? Thanks.
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