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Approximate Points and Miles valuations when selling to a broker*
Numbers in parentheses are (more) desirable account sizes.


Edit and add accordingly, but all edits *must* be based off of factual transactions that took place in the last 60 days.

Credit card, (unit), and transferable points:

SPG (SPG)             -1.8-2.1
Chase CLEAN [UP TO 200K](UR)           - 1.3
Chase UR-UR              -1.25
Diners Club (CR)   - 1.5
Amex (MR)            - 1.35
Amex (MR) BP 50% - 1.6-1.7
Amex (MR) BP 35% - ??
Citi (TY)                 - 1.2 small / Big 1.4
WF                        -1.51
Airline miles:

A3 - 1.6 (30,45,60)
AS - 2    (90
AS - 1.5 (50, 70, 75 100)
FB - 1.35 (125k)
LH - 1.4 - 1.6   (17, 52/55, 85
UA - 1.3-1.45    (12.5k, 25k, 30k, 50k, 57.5k, 60k, 70k, 80k, 110k
SQ - 1.2    (37.5, 57.5, 68, 75
AA - 1.2 small accounts 55, 62.5, 67.5 ect.
AA - 1.3    (110, 120
AC - 1.2
DL - 1.1
WN - 1.05
VS - ??
VX - 1.6-1.65
B6 - 1
BA - 1.05
HA - 0.6
QF: 1.35-1.45
NH/ANA - ?.?     (136
Hotel points:
(Status may increase the value)
SPG - 1.8-2.1 (20k increments are best)
Hyatt - 1.2-1.3
Wyndham - 0.7
Choice - 0.6
Marriott - 0.55-.7
IHG - 0.3
Hilton - 0.4
Club Carlson - 0.3

Airline And Travel Related Acronyms
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13317.0

*These valuations assume the account has between 50k and 150k miles/points.

FAQ's:
1. Q. On a scale from 1 to 10 how bored were you when you decided to make this list?
A. No comment. :P
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1320 on: February 20, 2018, 12:46:44 AM »
Wow. They're in the wrong field.
The field of unloading the AA miles they have from they're only card that they put all of their spend on for the last 15 years? Remember, not everyone here is here for all the forums have to offer. Many members, and more lurkers, are here just to get specific info. This thread would probably one of the more likely places to fit that bill.
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1321 on: February 20, 2018, 12:48:22 AM »
The field of unloading the AA miles they have from they're only card that they put all of their spend on for the last 15 years? Remember, not everyone here is here for all the forums have to offer. Many members, and more lurkers, are here just to get specific info. This thread would probably one of the more likely places to fit that bill.
Selling miles. Period, yes one time too. It should be know that you can't trust just anyone, just as well as you know you that points can be sold.
To know that someone needs to be trusted to do business with them, is more logical then knowing that you can sell miles. I'm not even talking about the fact that this business is riskier. And again Elya said nothing to imply Alex Kay is reliable, rather quite the contrary, although in a sarcastic manner, he implied that it's something to ask.
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1322 on: February 20, 2018, 12:53:24 AM »
Selling miles. Period, yes one time too. It should be know that you can't trust just anyone, just as well as you know you that points can be sold.
To know that someone needs to be trusted to do business with them, is more logical then knowing that you can sell miles. I'm not even talking about the fact that this business is riskier. And again Elya said nothing to imply Alex Kay is reliable, rather quote the contrary, he implied that it's something to ask.
I don't mean to sound rude but you've "been in this business" a very short amount of time, you really don't know how the average person (or most people for that matter) view the whole "mileage" industry.
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1323 on: February 20, 2018, 12:54:37 AM »
I don't mean to sound rude but you've "been in this business" a very short amount of time, you really don't know how the average person (or most people for that matter) view the whole "mileage" industry.
Did you read the post?
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« Reply #1324 on: February 20, 2018, 12:55:15 AM »
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« Reply #1325 on: February 20, 2018, 12:55:52 AM »
Yes
Did you see how my point was NOT about miles per say?
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« Reply #1326 on: February 20, 2018, 12:56:14 AM »
Did you see how my point was NOT about miles per say?
Yes
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1327 on: February 20, 2018, 12:58:40 AM »


Selling miles. Period, yes one time too. It should be know that you can't trust just anyone, just as well as you know you that points can be sold.
To know that someone needs to be trusted to do business with them, is more logical then knowing that you can sell miles. I'm not even talking about the fact that this business is riskier. And again Elya said nothing to imply Alex Kay is reliable, rather quite the contrary, although in a sarcastic manner, he implied that it's something to ask.

False. As someone who may never (formally) sell a mile in his lifetime, I can attest. Many people are sitting on piles of miles from a card they opened for a statement credit/free bag etc. and have been told the best value for them is to sell. They assume if they hear a name in Jewish circles, they can sell. Many are not aware of the trust needed to buy/sell miles. In any transaction, someone can take you're money, and decide not to give you the product. My brother sold his miles years ago, and saw a booking was made out of his account that he had full access to cancel/edit. It wasn't until I saw that that u realized how much trust there is in this field. There are many naive. Bless the lord for the brain you were given.
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1328 on: February 20, 2018, 01:03:28 AM »



False. As someone who may never (formally) sell a mile in his lifetime, I can attest. Many people are sitting on piles of miles from a card they opened for a statement credit/free bag etc. and have been told the best value for them is to sell. They assume if they hear a name in Jewish circles, they can sell. Many are not aware of the trust needed to buy/sell miles. In any transaction, someone can take you're money, and decide not to give you the product. My brother sold his miles years ago, and saw a booking was made out of his account that he had full access to cancel/edit. It wasn't until I saw that that u realized how much trust there is in this field. There are many naive. Bless the lord for the brain you were given.
I think we forgot the original discussion, it was about asking about someone (who is know as a scam) if he is reliable. To which I said he is just questioning, so there is no way to take it wrong. And you said
Not everyone was born with a brain. Some might think he's just being over cautious by asking if this guy is reliable. They see a good offer, and may even seek this guy out.
To which I said (if you can't use your brain) you are in the wrong business, which I explained as, any business. If someone is questioning someone's trustworthiness, how is that an implication that he is trustworthy?
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1329 on: February 20, 2018, 01:07:48 AM »
I think we forgot the original discussion, it was about asking about someone (who is know as a scam) if he is reliable. To which I said he is just questioning, so there is no way to take it wrong. And you saidTo which I said (if you can't use your brain) you are in the wrong business, which I explained as, any business. If someone is questioning someone's trustworthiness, how is that an implication that he is trustworthy?
I'm in no way saying it implies he's trustworthy. What I'm saying is, it's a name that this person now has. If he's less concerned about the trustworthiness of a broker (witch many noobs to this field may be) he now has a direct lead where to sell his miles.
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« Reply #1330 on: February 20, 2018, 01:11:53 AM »
I'm in no way saying it implies he's trustworthy. What I'm saying is, it's a name that this person now has. If he's less concerned about the trustworthiness of a broker (witch many noobs to this field may be) he now has a direct lead where to sell his miles.
Fair enough. Although I don't think saying a name in that context would trigger such a thought. Rather, it would trigger the idea of not trusting everyone.
Again, I never experienced this, as I never unassumingly racked up miles, then suddenly decided to sell them
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« Reply #1331 on: February 20, 2018, 01:16:15 AM »
Take the discussion somewhere else, no need to highjack this thread further.
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1332 on: February 20, 2018, 06:40:16 AM »
anyone know the price of 30k af/klm (flying blue)
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« Reply #1333 on: February 20, 2018, 10:05:37 AM »
Take the discussion somewhere else, no need to highjack this thread further.
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1334 on: February 27, 2018, 02:50:52 PM »
Was just told that for smaller accounts (under 100k), AMEX is going for 1.2 cpp.

Is this accurate?

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1335 on: February 27, 2018, 02:53:43 PM »
Was just told that for smaller accounts (under 100k), AMEX is going for 1.2 cpp.

Is this accurate?
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« Reply #1336 on: February 27, 2018, 03:07:48 PM »
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1337 on: February 27, 2018, 03:15:40 PM »
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Its around 1.3-1.375
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« Reply #1338 on: February 27, 2018, 03:18:26 PM »
i think that’s for bigger accounts CMIIW
1.3 should be obtainable for 50k+
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1339 on: February 27, 2018, 11:13:25 PM »
After adding another people as 2nd card holder, how long do we need to wait for?
I mean wait for how many days before transferring Amex MR to his ANA account?
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