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Approximate Points and Miles valuations when selling to a broker*
Numbers in parentheses are (more) desirable account sizes.


Edit and add accordingly, but all edits *must* be based off of factual transactions that took place in the last 60 days.

Credit card, (unit), and transferable points:

SPG (SPG)             -1.8-2.1
Chase CLEAN [UP TO 200K](UR)           - 1.3
Chase UR-UR              -1.25
Diners Club (CR)   - 1.5
Amex (MR)            - 1.35
Amex (MR) BP 50% - 1.6-1.7
Amex (MR) BP 35% - ??
Citi (TY)                 - 1.2 small / Big 1.4
WF                        -1.51
Airline miles:

A3 - 1.6 (30,45,60)
AS - 2    (90
AS - 1.5 (50, 70, 75 100)
FB - 1.35 (125k)
LH - 1.4 - 1.6   (17, 52/55, 85
UA - 1.3-1.45    (12.5k, 25k, 30k, 50k, 57.5k, 60k, 70k, 80k, 110k
SQ - 1.2    (37.5, 57.5, 68, 75
AA - 1.2 small accounts 55, 62.5, 67.5 ect.
AA - 1.3    (110, 120
AC - 1.2
DL - 1.1
WN - 1.05
VS - ??
VX - 1.6-1.65
B6 - 1
BA - 1.05
HA - 0.6
QF: 1.35-1.45
NH/ANA - ?.?     (136
Hotel points:
(Status may increase the value)
SPG - 1.8-2.1 (20k increments are best)
Hyatt - 1.2-1.3
Wyndham - 0.7
Choice - 0.6
Marriott - 0.55-.7
IHG - 0.3
Hilton - 0.3
Club Carlson - 0.3

Airline And Travel Related Acronyms
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13317.0

*These valuations assume the account has between 50k and 150k miles/points.

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Author Topic: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED  (Read 243353 times)

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1605 on: June 14, 2018, 12:45:42 PM »
what happens in such a case?
buyer and seller accounts get shut down, any remaining legs get cancelled.

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1606 on: June 14, 2018, 01:00:52 PM »
buyer and seller accounts get shut down, any remaining legs get cancelled.
And pax can get flagged, so any future award booking done for him gets cancelled and that account shut down as well (as well as any other 3rd party passengers already booked and flown out of these accounts).
Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box.

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1607 on: June 14, 2018, 02:29:45 PM »
And pax can get flagged, so any future award booking done for him gets cancelled and that account shut down as well (as well as any other 3rd party passengers already booked and flown out of these accounts).
So There's basically no way to protect yourself when selling a AA account?

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1608 on: June 14, 2018, 02:32:29 PM »
Will getting one account shutdown affect another AA account under my name?

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1609 on: June 14, 2018, 08:20:45 PM »
Will getting one account shutdown affect another AA account under my name?
brokers wont buy iy

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1610 on: June 17, 2018, 09:06:31 PM »
whats the value of chase sapphire preffered points?

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1611 on: June 17, 2018, 10:46:54 PM »
And pax can get flagged, so any future award booking done for him gets cancelled and that account shut down as well (as well as any other 3rd party passengers already booked and flown out of these accounts).
I sold in 2016. What if I book for myself. Would that flag the account and my flight would get cancelled?


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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1612 on: June 18, 2018, 10:58:54 AM »
I sold in 2016. What if I book for myself. Would that flag the account and my flight would get cancelled?


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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1613 on: June 19, 2018, 10:57:15 AM »
Does anyone have a copy of old amex
t&c where it said clearly that MR points have no cash value? A cache version is fine. I desperate need it for my accountant. Thanks

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1614 on: June 19, 2018, 10:59:35 AM »
I sold in 2016. What if I book for myself. Would that flag the account and my flight would get cancelled?


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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1615 on: June 19, 2018, 07:17:43 PM »
Update: PAYING $100 FOR THIS INFO.
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Does anyone have a copy of old amex
t&c where it said clearly that MR points have no cash value? A cache version is fine. I desperate need it for my accountant. Thanks

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1616 on: June 20, 2018, 10:28:06 PM »
what are MR going for? (over 1 million)

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1617 on: June 20, 2018, 10:30:24 PM »
what are MR going for? (over 1 million)
BP account

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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1618 on: June 21, 2018, 12:09:51 AM »

if the account was used to book for someone with different last name
Is booking for a family member (not immediate) with a different last name a problem (AA)?
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Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #1619 on: June 21, 2018, 12:49:04 AM »
Is booking for a family member (not immediate) with a different last name a problem (AA)?
if the account gets audited it might be a problem but if you can show proof that itís a family member you should be safe.

Iíve booked recently a nice few bookings for people with different last names and didnt have any problems bh