Topic Wiki

Please don't post the exact amounts of miles that you have. It will cause has caused this thread to get deleted. Thanks.

Approximate Points and Miles valuations when selling to a broker*
Numbers in parentheses are (more) desirable account sizes.


Edit and add accordingly, but all edits *must* be based off of factual transactions that took place in the last 60 days.

Credit card, (unit), and transferable points:

SPG (SPG)             -1.8-2.1
Chase CLEAN [UP TO 200K](UR)           - 1.3
Chase UR-UR              -1.25
Diners Club (CR)   - 1.5
Amex (MR)            - 1.35
Amex (MR) BP 50% - 1.6-1.7
Amex (MR) BP 35% - ??
Citi (TY)                 - 1.2 small / Big 1.4
WF                        -1.51
Airline miles:

A3 - 1.6 (30,45,60)
AS - 2    (90
AS - 1.5 (50, 70, 75 100)
FB - 1.35 (125k)
LH - 1.4 - 1.6   (17, 52/55, 85
UA - 1.3-1.45    (12.5k, 25k, 30k, 50k, 57.5k, 60k, 70k, 80k, 110k
SQ - 1.2    (37.5, 57.5, 68, 75
AA - 1.2 small accounts 55, 62.5, 67.5 ect.
AA - 1.3    (110, 120
AC - 1.2
DL - 1.1
WN - 1.05
VS - ??
VX - 1.6-1.65
B6 - 1
BA - 1.05
HA - 0.6
QF: 1.35-1.45
NH/ANA - ?.?     (136
Hotel points:
(Status may increase the value)
SPG - 1.8-2.1 (20k increments are best)
Hyatt - 1.2-1.3
Wyndham - 0.7
Choice - 0.6
Marriott - 0.55-.7
IHG - 0.3
Hilton - 0.3
Club Carlson - 0.3

Airline And Travel Related Acronyms
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13317.0

*These valuations assume the account has between 50k and 150k miles/points.

FAQ's:
1. Q. On a scale from 1 to 10 how bored were you when you decided to make this list?
A. No comment. :P

Author Topic: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED  (Read 439552 times)

Offline CHEAPAVEDA

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Feb 2017
  • Posts: 426
  • Total likes: 26
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC - FLUSHING / LES-TWO BRIDGES
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3080 on: July 14, 2021, 03:11:15 PM »
Is there a thread for transferring points?  My friend has the chase freedom card since the beginning -- and he doesn't really use his points. Is there a safe way to transfer this UR points to me without much risk or Chase ban since we're not in the same household?   I can move this question to another thread.  Thanks!

Offline HoKo

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 421
  • Total likes: 61
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3081 on: July 15, 2021, 04:46:28 PM »
Is there a thread for transferring points?  My friend has the chase freedom card since the beginning -- and he doesn't really use his points. Is there a safe way to transfer this UR points to me without much risk or Chase ban since we're not in the same household?   I can move this question to another thread.  Thanks!

Personally I wouldn't risk it. How about him transferring the points to whichever partner you want and then you can book awards out of his account for yourself?

Offline chinagel

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Mar 2014
  • Posts: 3577
  • Total likes: 280
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
  • Location: brooklyn
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3082 on: July 15, 2021, 05:24:21 PM »
What is rate for 30k hh? Transacting with friend, looing for fair number

Online mochjas

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Oct 2015
  • Posts: 8889
  • Total likes: 773
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 122
    • View Profile
  • Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium Elite, AA EX PLAT, Jetblue Mosaic, Qatar Gold, United Silver
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3083 on: July 15, 2021, 05:33:48 PM »
What is rate for 30k hh? Transacting with friend, looing for fair number
.4

Offline mileagejunkie

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Nov 2014
  • Posts: 2828
  • Total likes: 200
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 526
    • View Profile
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3084 on: July 15, 2021, 08:17:02 PM »
What is the going rate for 73k LH? (Not looking to sell)

Offline HoKo

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 421
  • Total likes: 61
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3085 on: July 16, 2021, 09:22:26 AM »
What is rate for 30k hh? Transacting with friend, looing for fair number

Frequent Miler recently published a good post covering this topic: https://frequentmiler.com/what-are-hilton-points-worth-and-should-we-buy-points/

You could use his number and then apply whatever you/your friend think is a fair discount factor.




Online tavster

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 2303
  • Total likes: 358
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 57
    • View Profile
  • Location: Israel
  • Programs: LY TP
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3086 on: July 19, 2021, 05:30:03 AM »
Can someone explain the volatility in the value of Marriott points? I've seen posts from 6 months ago about .4, and more recent about .7 and up.

Offline elya

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 2377
  • Total likes: 94
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3087 on: July 19, 2021, 03:50:22 PM »
Can someone explain the volatility in the value of Marriott points? I've seen posts from 6 months ago about .4, and more recent about .7 and up.
Supply/Demand?

Online tavster

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2015
  • Posts: 2303
  • Total likes: 358
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 57
    • View Profile
  • Location: Israel
  • Programs: LY TP
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3088 on: July 19, 2021, 03:53:35 PM »
Supply/Demand?
Could be. But specifically for Marriott? While HH stay flat?

Offline Yehudaa

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Mar 2018
  • Posts: 2754
  • Total likes: 1243
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 108
    • View Profile
  • Location: YYZ
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3089 on: July 19, 2021, 04:05:55 PM »
Can someone explain the volatility in the value of Marriott points? I've seen posts from 6 months ago about .4, and more recent about .7 and up.
Travel has definitely picked up over the past 6 months so that's probably the biggest factor. Also, this is just speculation but maybe prices were a bit lower at the beginning of the year as there was lots of supply of people who can transfer 100k and then supply dried up once people have used their transfer limit...

Could be. But specifically for Marriott? While HH stay flat?
I could be wrong but I don't think HH is as popular as Marriott for buying/selling, so I assume there's always more supply and less demand for HH...

Offline oldguy

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Mar 2012
  • Posts: 1048
  • Total likes: 51
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Brooklyn
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3090 on: July 19, 2021, 07:44:29 PM »
How much would it be to buy 59k AA Miles?

Offline elimmm

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2015
  • Posts: 599
  • Total likes: 38
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3091 on: July 22, 2021, 02:04:49 AM »
Is there any risk in transferring bonvoy points into your account from different sources. I think they let up to 5 transfers of 100k each (from different people)

Offline jew

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 478
  • Total likes: 24
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: los angeles
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3092 on: July 22, 2021, 03:28:09 AM »
Is there any risk in transferring bonvoy points into your account from different sources. I think they let up to 5 transfers of 100k each (from different people)
Yes it is.

Offline JACKBLUE

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2014
  • Posts: 2116
  • Total likes: 270
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 2
    • View Profile
  • Location: USA
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3093 on: July 22, 2021, 10:10:27 AM »
How much would it be to buy 59k AA Miles?
People don't like to sell AA, It's very risky, but when people do sell the rate is about 1.0 - 1.1

Offline lunatic

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: May 2009
  • Posts: 4353
  • Total likes: 19
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 8
    • View Profile
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3094 on: July 22, 2021, 10:13:30 AM »
What would 176K ANA go for?

Offline elimmm

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2015
  • Posts: 599
  • Total likes: 38
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3095 on: July 22, 2021, 01:01:49 PM »
Yes it is.

so officially, when are transfers permitted?

Offline HoKo

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 421
  • Total likes: 61
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3096 on: July 22, 2021, 03:07:09 PM »
so officially, when are transfers permitted?


Based on the official Marriott terms found here there isn't anything wrong with what you are proposing: https://www.marriott.com/loyalty/terms/default.mi#earn

Hope this helps



Offline simplicity

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Feb 2019
  • Posts: 783
  • Total likes: 64
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: Lakewood
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3097 on: July 22, 2021, 11:17:26 PM »
How much is 150 K of Hilton points going for, for purchase?

Offline Moshe26

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2016
  • Posts: 649
  • Total likes: 18
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: New York
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3098 on: July 22, 2021, 11:48:46 PM »
Anyone know what 30-60k Wyndham go for nowadays?

Offline oldguy

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Mar 2012
  • Posts: 1048
  • Total likes: 51
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: Brooklyn
Re: Points/Miles Values NO BUYING/SELLING ALLOWED
« Reply #3099 on: July 23, 2021, 01:01:54 PM »
What is the Price to buy 30k AA miles?