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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1740 on: November 30, 2014, 01:59:04 PM »
good old facebook:
Putting on my flame retardant suit. He has a valid point.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1741 on: November 30, 2014, 02:02:35 PM »
Putting on my flame retardant suit. He has a valid point.

At what point does it become abuse?

Of all the ways to make money off credit cards- this seems to be one of the most legit ones?

If one guy is making 5k off SBS before 'everybody else' does it- then it isn't abuse?
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1742 on: November 30, 2014, 02:03:28 PM »
good old facebook:

He's not wrong.  There's no human that doesn't sin. But the celebration of this sin was a little over the top. 

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1743 on: November 30, 2014, 02:04:00 PM »
Putting on my flame retardant suit. He has a valid point.
of course he has a valid point, but it doesn't make the typical, moderate DDFer into treif.

i.e. Just because ice cream is Kosher and Cholov Yisroel and someone eats 100 gallons of it in public and makes a chillul Hashem,
the remaining moderate ice cream eaters are still eating Kosher. However, going extreme in certain areas is NOT appropriate.

Moderation = Kosher
Extreme = (ask your LOR) not so Kosher


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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1744 on: November 30, 2014, 02:04:33 PM »
At what point does it become abuse?

Of all the ways to make money off credit cards- this seems to be one of the most legit ones?

If one guy is making 5k off SBS before 'everybody else' does it- then it isn't abuse?

When you do something you wouldn't done to yourself it's probably something you shouldn't do.

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1745 on: November 30, 2014, 02:04:48 PM »
Putting on my flame retardant suit. He has a valid point.
Not denying the validity of his point, just the chutzpah to post it in that way. If someone has a problem with what happened last night and wants to leave the group, go ahead and leave quietly. There's no need to stand on a soap box first.

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1746 on: November 30, 2014, 02:05:01 PM »
He's not wrong.  There's no human that doesn't sin. But the celebration of this sin was a little over the top. 

+1
He's not very coherent in his rant, but if that is his point then it may be valid. No need to shove it in Amex's face...

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1747 on: November 30, 2014, 02:05:27 PM »
At what point does it become abuse?
SBS reinforces the Jewish stereotype.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1748 on: November 30, 2014, 02:05:31 PM »

Putting on my flame retardant suit. He has a valid point.
+1 people here may not agree with him/her but we all admit this is grey area so why is it reprehensible when someone expresses that they think this goes beyond reasonable.

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1749 on: November 30, 2014, 02:06:40 PM »
SBS The Jews taking advantage of SBS reinforces the Jewish stereotype.

FTFY

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1750 on: November 30, 2014, 02:08:59 PM »
of course he has a valid point, but it doesn't make the typical, moderate DDFer into treif.

i.e. Just because ice cream is Kosher and Cholov Yisroel and someone eats 100 gallons of it in public and makes a chillul Hashem,
the remaining moderate ice cream eaters are still eating Kosher. However, going extreme in certain areas is NOT appropriate.

Moderation = Kosher
Extreme = (ask your LOR) not so Kosher



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If this poll is to be believed and can be takes=n as an accurate-ish sample slice of DDF, almost half of DDFers swiped 20 cards or less.

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1751 on: November 30, 2014, 02:09:29 PM »
SBS reinforces the Jewish stereotype.

oh, what doesn't?

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1752 on: November 30, 2014, 02:10:59 PM »
SBS reinforces the Jewish stereotype.
And the looting in Ferguson reinforces the black stereotype, so what?

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1753 on: November 30, 2014, 02:11:07 PM »
about the pictures for sure a valid point,  but come on, blaming dan for not discouraging? amex loves the publicity, and i know of small businesses who would not accept amex because of their fees but because of SBS it makes it worth it to them, which is def part of amex's strategy

and +1 for MC, no need to get all that attention for the exit

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1754 on: November 30, 2014, 02:20:17 PM »
And the looting in Ferguson reinforces the black stereotype, so what?
I am glad you brought that up because it has a lot in common with what we are discussing.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1755 on: November 30, 2014, 02:24:40 PM »
I think it has been largely exaggerated.

Dan surely isn't the blogger with most followers in this niche- and every pro miles/deals/cc blogger encouraged SBS.
The only difference is that Dan circle of influence is limited to a few regions as opposed to the others whose followers wouldn't necessarily fall into the same regions.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1756 on: November 30, 2014, 02:25:54 PM »
I am glad you brought that up because it has a lot in common with what we are discussing.
Which is why I brought it up. For people with stereotypes in their heads, everything they see will reinforce those stereotypes. And for people who don't care for stereotypes they see these things, chalk it up to a few opportunists (making more noise than is good for them) and then they move on...

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1757 on: November 30, 2014, 02:26:27 PM »
for those not on facebook, Dan responds beautifully:

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Divining AMEX's SBS intentions is mindbogglingly naive.
-If they want to limit it, they'll cut the total registrations allowed, instead they quadrupled them.
-If they want to limit it they'll cut the bonus per card, instead they tripled it.
-If they want to limit it they'll stop AU registrations, they haven't done that but they always may in the future.
-If they want to limit it further they'll limit it to one reregistration per person or household, they haven't done that but they always may in the future.
So let AMEX make their own business decisions and stop feeling bad for a $100B company that makes a $30M marketing promo that is wildly successful in getting news coverage, obtaining new merchants, obtaining new cardholders, and gaining swipe fees as well.


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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1758 on: November 30, 2014, 02:29:42 PM »
And for people who don't care for stereotypes they see these things, chalk it up to a few opportunists (making more noise than is good for them) and then they move on...
I think you are wrong on this one.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #1759 on: November 30, 2014, 02:31:13 PM »
for those not on facebook, Dan responds beautifully:
That is the same response to everything and it is getting old fast.
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