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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2610 on: September 07, 2016, 10:10:17 AM »
Today's ruling authority may as well work in IHOP as they waffle just as much.
They were going on and off more times about the kosher switch as the actual switch did.  :)
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2611 on: September 07, 2016, 10:10:34 AM »
Do as I say not as I do.
Yup.  Dont confuse Jews with Judaism.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2612 on: September 07, 2016, 10:16:58 AM »
Dont confuse Jews with Judaism.
I can take that to mean Jews say one thing but do another that does not follow the laws/rules of Judaism. Care to clarify for me?  :P
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2613 on: September 07, 2016, 10:20:36 AM »
I can take that to mean Jews say one thing but do another that does not follow the laws/rules of Judaism. Care to clarify for me?  :P
Individual Jews may not follow the rules. That does not mean Judaism is flawed. That means individuals may be flawed but they do not speak for the entirety of judaism. 
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2614 on: September 07, 2016, 10:49:26 AM »
Sorry to interrupt, but on the topic of the thread title:

What are your profits going to be ?
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2615 on: September 07, 2016, 10:51:32 AM »
Sorry to interrupt, but on the topic of the thread title:
Thats just poor wording. He means what markup is he paying.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2616 on: September 07, 2016, 10:53:26 AM »
Thats just poor wording. He means what markup is he paying.

Based on that thread history, I'd wager I understood it correctly.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2617 on: September 07, 2016, 10:55:28 AM »
Based on that thread history, I'd wager I understood it correctly.
Then

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2618 on: September 07, 2016, 11:09:42 AM »
Individual Jews may not follow the rules. That does not mean Judaism is flawed. That means individuals may be flawed but they do not speak for the entirety of judaism. 
No true scotsman....
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2619 on: September 07, 2016, 11:11:37 AM »
Most of these guys were born after this rabbi died and have no clue what a holy yet practical person he was. There has not been anyone who has come close to replacing him. Every ruling you get today is hedged with a more stringent viewpoint. He ruled clearly and firmly, without hedging. A real shame we dont have someone lile him around today with rhe guts to issue rulings and stand behind them. All we get today are soundbites issued "in the name of" so and so. Nothing firm and nothing that can be challenged and tested.
Maybe you need to get to different poskim. Being very involved in psak halacha in Lakewood I find that YMMV depending on whom you ask.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2620 on: September 07, 2016, 11:26:32 AM »
Maybe you need to get to different poskim. Being very involved in psak halacha in Lakewood I find that YMMV depending on whom you ask.
You mean to tell me there is someone on par with R' Moshe in Lakewood today? Someone who issues piskei halacha without fear and without being machmir "just to be on the safe side". Doubt it, your "involvement in psak halacha in Lakewood" notwithstanding.   

I have my poskim. I also know some of the bigger poskim today who waffle and cannot give you a straight yes or no when that is what is required.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2621 on: September 07, 2016, 11:33:04 AM »
You mean to tell me there is someone on par with R' Moshe in Lakewood today? Someone who issues piskei halacha without fear and without being machmir "just to be on the safe side". Doubt it, your "involvement in psak halacha in Lakewood" notwithstanding.   

I have my poskim. I also know some of the bigger poskim today who waffle and cannot give you a straight yes or no when that is what is required.
I have NEVER had that from R Shmuel Kamenetsky and very rarely from R Shmuel Meir Katz or R Michoel Yardley to name some. That does not mean equality with R Moshe. I was dealing with the one aspect you mentioned.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2622 on: September 07, 2016, 11:38:08 AM »
I have NEVER had that from R Shmuel Kamenetsky...
IIRC he was against the kosher switch? If so I like that guy.  :)
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2623 on: September 07, 2016, 11:38:24 AM »
I have NEVER had that from R Shmuel Kamenetsky and very rarely from R Shmuel Meir Katz or R Michoel Yardley to name some. That does not mean equality with R Moshe. I was dealing with the one aspect you mentioned.
Show me written piskei halacha and then we can talk turkey. None of today's poskim would dare write piskei halacha like R' Moshe. They may tell it to you, but never write it. And if written its from their "camp" not them. Cut and paste kol koireh signatures dont constitute piskei halacha.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2624 on: September 07, 2016, 11:41:26 AM »
Mine kind of guy!!!
Is he Jewish?  :)
Judging by that statement you must have grown up in Williamsburg, Crown Heights or KJ  ;D
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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