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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2620 on: September 07, 2016, 11:26:32 AM »
Maybe you need to get to different poskim. Being very involved in psak halacha in Lakewood I find that YMMV depending on whom you ask.
You mean to tell me there is someone on par with R' Moshe in Lakewood today? Someone who issues piskei halacha without fear and without being machmir "just to be on the safe side". Doubt it, your "involvement in psak halacha in Lakewood" notwithstanding.   

I have my poskim. I also know some of the bigger poskim today who waffle and cannot give you a straight yes or no when that is what is required.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2621 on: September 07, 2016, 11:33:04 AM »
You mean to tell me there is someone on par with R' Moshe in Lakewood today? Someone who issues piskei halacha without fear and without being machmir "just to be on the safe side". Doubt it, your "involvement in psak halacha in Lakewood" notwithstanding.   

I have my poskim. I also know some of the bigger poskim today who waffle and cannot give you a straight yes or no when that is what is required.
I have NEVER had that from R Shmuel Kamenetsky and very rarely from R Shmuel Meir Katz or R Michoel Yardley to name some. That does not mean equality with R Moshe. I was dealing with the one aspect you mentioned.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2622 on: September 07, 2016, 11:38:08 AM »
I have NEVER had that from R Shmuel Kamenetsky...
IIRC he was against the kosher switch? If so I like that guy.  :)
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2623 on: September 07, 2016, 11:38:24 AM »
I have NEVER had that from R Shmuel Kamenetsky and very rarely from R Shmuel Meir Katz or R Michoel Yardley to name some. That does not mean equality with R Moshe. I was dealing with the one aspect you mentioned.
Show me written piskei halacha and then we can talk turkey. None of today's poskim would dare write piskei halacha like R' Moshe. They may tell it to you, but never write it. And if written its from their "camp" not them. Cut and paste kol koireh signatures dont constitute piskei halacha.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2624 on: September 07, 2016, 11:41:26 AM »
Mine kind of guy!!!
Is he Jewish?  :)
Judging by that statement you must have grown up in Williamsburg, Crown Heights or KJ  ;D
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2625 on: September 07, 2016, 11:43:40 AM »
Show me written piskei halacha and then we can talk turkey. None of today's poskim would dare write piskei halacha like R' Moshe. They may tell it to you, but never write it. And if written its from their "camp" not them. Cut and paste kol koireh signatures dont constitute piskei halacha.
Why are you limiting to written psakim? BTW R Shmuel will back up what is written in Kovetz Halachos.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2626 on: September 07, 2016, 11:44:26 AM »
IIRC he was against the kosher switch? If so I like that guy.  :)
If those are your parameters you will have a very wide selection.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2627 on: September 07, 2016, 11:50:05 AM »
Judging by that statement you must have grown up in Williamsburg, Crown Heights or KJ  ;D
NJ  :-[
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2628 on: September 07, 2016, 11:52:55 AM »
Why are you limiting to written psakim? BTW R Shmuel will back up what is written in Kovetz Halachos.

There's a world of a difference between verbal and written halacha.
For example, if there's an error in a students sefer, will you say that is the Posek's error or the student's error?
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2629 on: September 07, 2016, 12:00:10 PM »
IIRC he was against the kosher switch? If so I like that guy.  :)

Isn't he also anti-Vax though?

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2630 on: September 07, 2016, 12:51:32 PM »
There's a world of a difference between verbal and written halacha.
For example, if there's an error in a students sefer, will you say that is the Posek's error or the student's error?
If there is a deleted psak in a new printing of an old sefer does it change the reality that the psak was written? V'hamavin yavin. Of course written psak is what we judge R' Moshe and all who had broad shoulders on. Not the verbal psak that has no means of verification.
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2631 on: September 07, 2016, 03:04:57 PM »
What the world is going on in this thread!? Speechless?!
Money talks...mine says goodbye!

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2632 on: September 07, 2016, 03:12:50 PM »
What the world is going on in this thread!? Speechless?!
Yea, I predicted something, but not this...  :o

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2633 on: September 07, 2016, 03:18:25 PM »
Yea, I predicted something, but not this...  :o
I liked your post.
Just that you should know it was me i am telling you now
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2634 on: September 07, 2016, 08:47:14 PM »
I liked your post.
Just that you should know it was me i am telling you now
Ok, fine. I'll like yours back...

Anyway, thank you!  :)

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2635 on: September 08, 2016, 05:27:15 PM »
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/94867#comment-1284942

Some of these make me wish i was never born >:(
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2636 on: September 08, 2016, 05:56:38 PM »
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2637 on: September 08, 2016, 05:57:50 PM »
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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2638 on: September 13, 2016, 12:36:14 AM »
Face reality Jews would do anything for a dollar including  stealing. All they need is a way to justify it then it's all good. Shoplifting is hard to justify that's why u don't see it in the frum community that often.
ETA: context makes it worse, not better.

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Re: Comments That Leave Me Speechless...
« Reply #2639 on: September 13, 2016, 12:38:37 AM »
ETA: context makes it worse, not better.
Disgraceful. There are ways to say it. Given it has to be said.