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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #140 on: March 06, 2016, 07:39:38 PM »
Power wash

So how come nobody holds of power wash with fresh vegetables without a hashgacha? lettuce, etc.  And bodek only has chopped up?

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #141 on: March 06, 2016, 07:39:40 PM »
even dovid Goldstein says that you can peel strawberries so even the biggest machmirim hold there are ways of partaking in strawberries.
And even I peel strawberies!

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #142 on: March 06, 2016, 07:40:24 PM »
They could be cleaned very well by machine first.
The discussion here is about fresh.
those are cooked so even if they are wrong to give a hechsher, you can still eat them

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #143 on: March 06, 2016, 07:40:44 PM »
So how come nobody holds of power wash with fresh vegetables without a hashgacha? lettuce, etc.  And bodek only has chopped up?
Honestly I don't really know. I'm just assuming that there are ways to clean berries. Maybe not lettuce?

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #144 on: March 06, 2016, 07:43:03 PM »
And even I peel strawberies!
BTW , R' Vaye was at the askOU summer seminars 2 years ago, and he told R' Fuchs (OU) that if you wash and brush the strawberries 3 times is soapy water and don't find Big's using his shmate method you can eat them

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #145 on: March 06, 2016, 08:26:39 PM »
FWIW, I just found worms in 2 of the 5 raw almonds I checked. I bought them at a large supermarket with a fast turnaround. This is the first time I soaked them and took off the skin. No sign with the skin on. A tiny hole with the skin off. I usually just check 5, then pop them in my mouth. Yuck.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #146 on: March 06, 2016, 08:38:31 PM »
This

That is way too small to see. Note: It isn't the dimple, it's inside the dimple apparently.  That isn't a problem.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #147 on: March 06, 2016, 08:40:35 PM »
That is way too small to see. Note: It isn't the dimple, it's inside the dimple apparently.  That isn't a problem.
If it were black you would see it for sure.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #148 on: March 06, 2016, 08:53:56 PM »
If it were black you would see it for sure.

If it were 6 feet long, it would eat me.

By which I mean, I don't think halacha recognizes that if it glowed in the dark it would be more visible.  As it is, the thing is not visible without a magnifying glass, so it's muttar.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #149 on: March 07, 2016, 07:42:23 AM »
If it were 6 feet long, it would eat me.

By which I mean, I don't think halacha recognizes that if it glowed in the dark it would be more visible.  As it is, the thing is not visible without a magnifying glass, so it's muttar.
The poskim today discuss clear definitions of visible. - Don't remember if it is 1 millimeter or something else. Il look around.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #150 on: March 07, 2016, 07:43:08 AM »
Is this the officially OU sanctioned method?

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #151 on: March 07, 2016, 09:40:42 AM »
The poskim today discuss clear definitions of visible. - Don't remember if it is 1 millimeter or something else. Il look around.
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #152 on: March 07, 2016, 09:44:50 AM »
The poskim today discuss clear definitions of visible. - Don't remember if it is 1 millimeter or something else. Il look around.

How big was that bug?

Also, how does that work? If it's 2 millimeters long but only 1 micron wide, it probably still isn't visible.  At the same time, 1 millimiter by half a millimeter is probably more visible than half by half.  So shouldn't there be some formula to account for the 3D nature of bugs?

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #153 on: March 07, 2016, 10:26:21 AM »
How big was that bug?

Also, how does that work? If it's 2 millimeters long but only 1 micron wide, it probably still isn't visible.  At the same time, 1 millimiter by half a millimeter is probably more visible than half by half.  So shouldn't there be some formula to account for the 3D nature of bugs?

How about if the bug keeps jumping between realities? You should need to account for all 11 dimensions
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #154 on: March 07, 2016, 10:46:08 AM »
How about if the bug keeps jumping between realities? You should need to account for all 11 dimensions
According to Schroeder if it goes between dimensions without you being able to know which dimension it is in, you will have a bug in all the realitys at once and therefore it will be trief.
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #155 on: March 07, 2016, 12:07:00 PM »
Why is everyone making a big deal now? i have been buying strawberries for the last 5 years in Lakewood between Shloimes, Farm Fresh and Kosher Village I've purchased from each one multiple times.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #156 on: March 07, 2016, 12:09:56 PM »
Per CRC Guide, http://www.crcweb.org/fruit%20&%20veg%20guide.php

Strawberries – Fresh strawberries should have the tops cut off and then gently rub the strawberry while rinsing it under a strong stream of water.  Alternatively, after removing the tops, soak the strawberries in water mixed with vegetable wash or dish-soap, and then agitate the berries in the water.  No further checking is required

Not that big a deal to do.

https://oukosher.org/ou-guide-to-checking-produce-and-more/ not much different

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #157 on: March 07, 2016, 12:38:19 PM »
Per CRC Guide, http://www.crcweb.org/fruit%20&%20veg%20guide.php

Strawberries Fresh strawberries should have the tops cut off and then gently rub the strawberry while rinsing it under a strong stream of water.  Alternatively, after removing the tops, soak the strawberries in water mixed with vegetable wash or dish-soap, and then agitate the berries in the water.  No further checking is required

Not that big a deal to do.

https://oukosher.org/ou-guide-to-checking-produce-and-more/ not much different

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All frozen strawberries without added flavors or colors are acceptable. All frozen strawberries packed only with sugar are acceptable.

So basically any frozen strawberry is ok, with no hashgacha.  Why can't I just freeze them myself?

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #158 on: March 07, 2016, 12:39:00 PM »
So basically any frozen strawberry is ok, with no hashgacha.  Why can't I just freeze them myself?
Power wash

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #159 on: March 07, 2016, 12:54:43 PM »
Power wash

So we're back to power wash, which works well enough for strawberries but not for baby spinach?