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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #260 on: July 06, 2016, 03:11:23 PM »
Their naivete is their own problem, not the store's. They shouldn't be doing the shopping.
The stores shouldn't consider themselves kosher.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #261 on: July 06, 2016, 03:12:45 PM »
???

Unfortunately there are many naive people out there who assume that a kosher supermarket actually is what they imply to be...
doe they also buy lettuce and use without cleaning it?

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #262 on: July 06, 2016, 03:14:00 PM »
The stores shouldn't consider themselves kosher.
I disagree. For example if there is an item that has a so so hechsher the store is not required to post that. A customer is required to look at things.
If you dont know how to follow instructions (have a rabbi to ask thing to) then its your own problem.
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #263 on: July 06, 2016, 03:15:36 PM »
I disagree. For example if there is an item that has a so so hechsher the store is not required to post that. A customer is required to look at things.
If you dont know how to follow instructions (have a rabbi to ask thing to) then its your own problem.
Correct if it's a so so product. Not if it's agreed by all the it's impossible to clean that fruit.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #264 on: July 06, 2016, 03:18:42 PM »
Correct if it's a so so product. Not if it's agreed by all the it's impossible to clean that fruit.

That's a bold statement and factually false.
Trolls will always post stupid replies

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #265 on: July 06, 2016, 03:22:24 PM »
That's a bold statement and factually false.
Was debated upthread.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #266 on: July 06, 2016, 03:28:30 PM »
Was debated upthread.

i'm not getting into the debate about what you hold. I'm just pointing out that you made a generalization that is wrong
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #267 on: July 06, 2016, 04:32:36 PM »
Correct if it's a so so product. Not if it's agreed by all the it's impossible to clean that fruit.

There are those who permit it. How about banning all stores that sell bagels with cream cheese and lox, because there are many who don't eat fish with cheese...

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #268 on: July 06, 2016, 04:49:50 PM »
There are those who permit it. How about banning all stores that sell bagels with cream cheese and lox, because there are many who don't eat fish with cheese...
Great idea start a new thread (or maybe put it in the "where have you been banned from thread)
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #269 on: July 06, 2016, 07:59:29 PM »
There are those who permit it. How about banning all stores that sell bagels with cream cheese and lox, because there are many who don't eat fish with cheese...
Nobody just "permits" it.

The OU recommends a certain bedika. If this bedika is positive for bugs there is no cleaning process available. Supposedly this bedika will show infestation 99% of the time.

For this reason the OU doesn't allow rasperries and blackberries in facilities with their hechsher.
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #270 on: July 06, 2016, 08:04:21 PM »
Purchased in a local grocery

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #271 on: July 06, 2016, 08:06:15 PM »
Nobody just "permits" it.

The OU recommends a certain bedika. If this bedika is positive for bugs there is no cleaning process available. Supposedly this bedika will show infestation 99% of the time.

For this reason the OU doesn't allow rasperries and blackberries in facilities with their hechsher.
Eta. Just did the OU bedika with Seasons blackberries.  - a couple of crawlers

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #272 on: July 06, 2016, 10:02:33 PM »
Purchased in a local grocery


Was that before or after cooking? Do they float free when you cook it?

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #273 on: July 06, 2016, 10:21:53 PM »
Nobody just "permits" it.

The OU recommends a certain bedika. If this bedika is positive for bugs there is no cleaning process available. Supposedly this bedika will show infestation 99% of the time.

For this reason the OU doesn't allow rasperries and blackberries in facilities with their hechsher.
The OU permits it for jam

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #274 on: July 06, 2016, 10:31:31 PM »
The OU permits it for jam
So you want to say that every naive person walking into Seasons buying blackberries is getting it for jam?!

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #275 on: July 06, 2016, 10:33:37 PM »
So you want to say that every naive person walking into Seasons buying blackberries is getting it for jam?!
No but i don't think there is anything wrong with a store selling such things

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #276 on: July 06, 2016, 10:45:10 PM »
Most kosher supermarkets sell many things that some people eat and some people don't. The only supermarket I dont check for hechsherim or the such in is NPGS, where I know they would lable anything slightly questionable with signs or take it off the shelf.
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #277 on: July 06, 2016, 11:19:11 PM »
Most kosher supermarkets sell many things that some people eat and some people don't. The only supermarket I dont check for hechsherim or the such in is NPGS, where I know they would lable anything slightly questionable with signs or take it off the shelf.
Check your premises
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #278 on: July 06, 2016, 11:57:52 PM »
The OU permits it for jam
First of all please post your source. (Commercial may be a different process)
Second of all, that's a lame excuse.

We all know the sad truth. - in the other seasons locations the customers have no problem purchasing and rinsing rasperries for consumption. This is why it is part of their inventory chain, and ends up in Lakewood.

They wouldn't be selling them if noone bought them. - And there ain't that many old ladies makin jam.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #279 on: July 06, 2016, 11:59:29 PM »
Most kosher supermarkets sell many things that some people eat and some people don't. The only supermarket I dont check for hechsherim or the such in is NPGS, where I know they would lable anything slightly questionable with signs or take it off the shelf.
This is the point of the thread. Which Rabbi permits the consumption of rasperries? Who buys these things??
This is not a minhag or Chumrah issue.