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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2016, 07:19:37 AM »
These kashrus authorities feel you can clean strawberries

http://www.ok.org/assets/files/OK_Veggie_Checking_Guide.pdf
http://www.crcweb.org/fruit%20&%20veg%20guide.php
http://www.star-k.org/articles/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/kyk2015-05_May1.pdf
https://oukosher.org/ou-guide-to-checking-produce-and-more/
https://www.kof-k.org/docs/CheckVegetablesForBugs.pdf

Bodek makes sure to get crops which are not infested and early in the season.
Interesting. This is how we washed strawberies all the years.

A few years ago supposedly something changed and the washing was deemed ineffective.

Either I have been misinformed, or these hechsherim are the minority opinion..

Though I get the feeling that even these hechsherim would admit that there is a big mokom to be machmir.

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2016, 09:19:34 AM »
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Youd think they were selling pork bellies.
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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2016, 09:42:31 AM »
Youd think they were selling pork bellies.

You can't rinse pork bellies?

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2016, 09:50:52 AM »
A few years ago supposedly something changed and the washing was deemed ineffective.

there is a big mokom to be machmir.

Maybe that's what changed a few years ago.  The rush to chumrahs...

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2016, 10:57:43 AM »
Either I have been misinformed, or these hechsherim are the minority opinion..
Considering that these are every major hechsher it would be difficult to call a minority opinion.

Interesting. This is how we washed strawberies all the years.

A few years ago supposedly something changed and the washing was deemed ineffective.

Though I get the feeling that even these hechsherim would admit that there is a big mokom to be machmir.
There are groups of people (you know who some of them are) who go around find chumros especially regarding tolaim even though they are ignorant about siman 84. These are the same people who were writing shtiklach torah about worms in fish based on a line out of a 2 blatt sugya and a half a seif out of a 17 seif siman.
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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2016, 11:03:11 AM »
Maybe.. Going to look into this more. I have been painfully peeling strawberies for the last couple of years. Don't remember the details now, but I'm pretty sure I started this minhag based on solid evidence.

Il research it when I get time bln.

But even one of the links you posted says to "look carefully for the PINK colored insects on the strawberry", and to stay away from Mexican ones.
 - Not sure how comfortable I am with all that.


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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2016, 11:26:58 AM »
Considering that these are every major hechsher it would be difficult to call a minority opinion.
There are groups of people (you know who some of them are) who go around find chumros especially regarding tolaim even though they are ignorant about siman 84. These are the same people who were writing shtiklach torah about worms in fish based on a line out of a 2 blatt sugya and a half a seif out of a 17 seif siman.
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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2016, 11:32:57 AM »
Seems to be some back and forth on this. 2007 the consensus was that strawberies are impossible to clean.
It seems like things have improved.

http://kosherpoint.com/what-can-be-wrong-with-that/strawberries/

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2016, 12:09:40 PM »
Seems to be some back and forth on this. 2007 the consensus was that strawberies are impossible to clean.
It seems like things have improved.

http://kosherpoint.com/what-can-be-wrong-with-that/strawberries/
I hope you're not posting that one link to prove that there was any sort of 'consensus'. You can check with each of the organizations aygart linked to, but I don't believe any of them held it was categorically impossible to check strawberries, at any point.

[ETA: This is not to say that I don't applaud people who feel there's a legitimate reason to be machmir and take that chumrah on themselves, but rather to say that it doesn't seem to have ever risen to the level where the mainstream kashrus organization felt it was necessary to state categorically that the accepted methods were no longer sufficient. And that comes back to the pic that was posted.]

On a side note, there was a lighting deal a few months ago on this AeroGrow counter-top hydroponic garden:
http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Gro-AeroGarden-Gourmet-Herb-Seed/dp/B010NBJMLI/?tag=cl03f-20
We picked one up (actually ended up with 2 of them for just $70 - gotta love Amazon CS) and have been growing the herbs that it came with. It's nice not to have to check any of it. We're thinking of getting all romaine lettuce for the next round for the same reason.
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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2016, 12:12:17 PM »
I hope you're not posting that one link to prove that there was any sort of 'consensus'. You can check with each of the organizations aygart linked to, but I don't believe any of them held it was categorically impossible to check strawberries, at any point.

On a side note, there was a lighting deal a few months ago on this AeroGrow counter-top hydroponic garden:
http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Gro-AeroGarden-Gourmet-Herb-Seed/dp/B010NBJMLI/?tag=cl03f-20
We picked one up (actually ended up with 2 of them for just $70 - gotta love Amazon CS) and have been growing the herbs that it came with. It's nice not to have to check any of it. We're thinking of getting all romaine lettuce for the next round for the same reason.
sell it in KGH
shouldnt be hard to sell for cheaper than the bodek bags
FWIW, Star K's shita regarding this is different than many of the other organizations.  They rely on a kula regarding determining the chazaka, and therefore many wont eat the lettuce in the fresh express bags with the star k hechsher (I still dont get how some bags have the hechsher and some dont)

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2016, 12:13:53 PM »
sell it in KGH
shouldnt be hard to sell for cheaper than the bodek bags
FWIW, Star K's shita regarding this is different than many of the other organizations.  They rely on a kula regarding determining the chazaka, and therefore many wont eat the lettuce in the fresh express bags with the star k hechsher (I still dont get how some bags have the hechsher and some dont)
Lol, it doesn't grow quite that much. I'm sure even when if we do lettuce next, it won't be enough that my wife will never have to buy more lettuce while it's growing/producing.

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2016, 12:23:41 PM »
Interesting. This is how we washed strawberies all the years.

A few years ago supposedly something changed and the washing was deemed ineffective.

Either I have been misinformed, or these hechsherim are the minority opinion..

Though I get the feeling that even these hechsherim would admit that there is a big mokom to be machmir.
BTW fruit stores in Yerushalayim under the BADATZ sell fresh strawberries!!!!

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2016, 12:26:18 PM »
BTW fruit stores in Yerushalayim under the BADATZ sell fresh strawberries!!!!
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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2016, 12:26:30 PM »
BTW fruit stores in Yerushalayim under the BADATZ sell fresh strawberries!!!!
Depending on where you grow the strawberries you may be able to get less buggy ones.
Maybe they get it from a different place than America does.
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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2016, 12:26:34 PM »

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2016, 12:30:34 PM »
Depending on where you grow the strawberries you may be able to get less buggy ones.
Well that's what the store owner tried selling me.

However I personally called the BADATZ, and they said that their Hashgacha is only on Terumos/Maasros, but they allow them to sell it being that there are ways to clean them.

But that their Hashgacha does not have any implications regarding the bug problem, for that he recommended I call my LOR as to how to clean them.

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2016, 12:31:59 PM »
From what my understanding in the last few years the stoped the use of some pesticides (the FDA stopped allowing) therefore it became a big problem.
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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2016, 12:37:32 PM »
On a side note, there was a lighting deal a few months ago on this AeroGrow counter-top hydroponic garden:
http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Gro-AeroGarden-Gourmet-Herb-Seed/dp/B010NBJMLI/?tag=cl03f-20
We picked one up (actually ended up with 2 of them for just $70 - gotta love Amazon CS) and have been growing the herbs that it came with. It's nice not to have to check any of it. We're thinking of getting all romaine lettuce for the next round for the same reason.


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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2016, 12:38:46 PM »
From what my understanding in the last few years the stoped the use of some pesticides (the FDA stopped allowing) therefore it became a big problem.

I don't think that is the case. I think it is mostly propaganda.
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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2016, 12:46:58 PM »

Come on... tell us what you're really growing
Well one of the herbs is weed. Dill weed specifically.

But seriously, google aerogarden and click on images. This one is in the middle of the first page of results: