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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #80 on: March 03, 2016, 03:14:01 PM »
As true as it is, it always makes me laugh that we don't mind eating bugs if they're all ground up.
Halacha never permits eating bugs, so if it's permissible to eat it ground then we're not eating bugs.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #81 on: March 03, 2016, 03:14:16 PM »
Re strawberries: with the top taken off, the entire peel taken off (get big/huge strawberries), and cut in the middle to check that sliver hole...whatever leftover flesh remains is yummy.  Alternatively, just puree them whole and you are good to go. (check with LOR)  The removing peel was substituted for soaking in soapy water a few years ago because of increased infestation.
Who did this substitution? not the major hechserim.
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #82 on: March 03, 2016, 03:16:48 PM »
Halacha never permits eating bugs, so if it's permissible to eat it ground then we're not eating bugs.
you sure are, they are just batel
but when they are whole, each bug is a berya, and aint batel

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #83 on: March 03, 2016, 03:17:03 PM »
Who did this substitution? not the major hechserim.
Go back to this post, see attachment.
Seems to be some back and forth on this. 2007 the consensus was that strawberies are impossible to clean.
It seems like things have improved.

http://kosherpoint.com/what-can-be-wrong-with-that/strawberries/

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #84 on: March 03, 2016, 03:17:56 PM »
you sure are, they are just batel
but when they are whole, each bug is a berya, and aint batel
I knew that this thread should be merged with the halacha thread!

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #85 on: March 03, 2016, 03:22:07 PM »
Go back to this post, see attachment.
His point was that the major hechsherim never changed their view, so pointing out one Rov that did is not gonna change that.

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #86 on: March 03, 2016, 03:24:51 PM »
His point was that the major hechsherim never changed their view, so pointing out one Rov that did is not gonna change that.
I'll just repeat what others say, not my own words. But R' Wei is considered the giant and mumche in tolaim.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #87 on: March 03, 2016, 04:10:52 PM »
Re strawberries: with the top taken off, the entire peel taken off (get big/huge strawberries), and cut in the middle to check that sliver hole...whatever leftover flesh remains is yummy.  Alternatively, just puree them whole and you are good to go. (check with LOR)  The removing peel was substituted for soaking in soapy water a few years ago because of increased infestation.
Absolutely not! There is no bitul likatchila. I don't think any reputable LOR would recommend this.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #88 on: March 03, 2016, 04:13:40 PM »
People are crazy, his Rov said strawberries aren't checkable so it must be that no one disagrees. My Rov personally holds that you can eat strawberries.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #89 on: March 03, 2016, 04:36:48 PM »
Has anyone ever seen a bug on a strawberry?
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #90 on: March 03, 2016, 04:51:24 PM »
Has anyone ever seen a bug on a strawberry?
You bet! A live, long, black thing scurrying around inside that center, sliver of a hole.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #91 on: March 03, 2016, 04:53:00 PM »
Has anyone ever seen a bug on a strawberry?

take one & hit it on a sheet of paper.
I actually eat strawberries as there is a way to make them bug free

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #92 on: March 03, 2016, 05:00:59 PM »
Absolutely not! There is no bitul likatchila. I don't think any reputable LOR would recommend this.
You are correct.  Not good to go.  No bitul lchatchila and was only a bidieved situation.  My new LOR agrees with you.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #93 on: March 03, 2016, 05:01:38 PM »
Has anyone ever seen a bug on a strawberry?
The pink ones? Nah. Hard to see.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #94 on: March 03, 2016, 05:02:09 PM »
take one & hit it on a sheet of paper.
I actually eat strawberries as there is a way to make them bug free
That's my point. If you hit it on paper you'll see pretty quickly if it's infested or not. Then you can go from there with your peeler or soap or vinegar or whatever.
I've seen many clean strawberries.
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #95 on: March 03, 2016, 05:02:38 PM »
take one & hit it on a sheet of paper.
I actually eat strawberries as there is a way to make them bug free
I'm going to try that one.  It doesn't get the central ones though.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #96 on: March 03, 2016, 05:03:36 PM »
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #97 on: March 03, 2016, 05:04:20 PM »
That's my point. If you hit it on paper you'll see pretty quickly if it's infested or not. Then you can go from there with your peeler or soap or vinegar or whatever.
I've seen many clean strawberries.
Your method is not mentioned by the mainstream hechsherim.

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #98 on: March 03, 2016, 05:04:59 PM »
I'll just repeat what others say, not my own words. But R' Wei is considered the giant and mumche in tolaim.

Many consider him to be too machmir (i.e. חושש למעוט שאינה מצוי.)

Absolutely not! There is no bitul likatchila. I don't think any reputable LOR would recommend this.

Many rabbis recommend this.  There are various svoros as to when and why there is no problem of mavtlim isur lichatchila.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #99 on: March 03, 2016, 05:09:57 PM »
the O-U has a process for cleaning strawberries, I think I once saw it on youtube