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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #120 on: March 06, 2016, 05:28:31 PM »
Do you think its ok to sell Raspberry's?

Obviously I understand if you couldn't care less.
I could tell you they have a lobster tank and you would shrug..


Just to set the record straight, I was genuinely impressed with the store, the checkout process was a dream, and ime the prices were just fine.
The only issue is the tight parking.

I am a shomer torah imitzvos individual without bending the rules. I am not sure what you are trying to say.
You seem from this thread & other threads in the past not to have knowledge that there are different opinions on halacha. There seems to be a more condensed group of people like you in Lakewood hence the generalizing of you guys dont live & let live.

Not everyone MUST listen to the way your rav paskens & if you dont believe that you need to get out in the street more & open your eyes. Not everyone has been cut with a cookie cutter.

I am not a self hating jew, on the contrary.. I love every single yid including you.. But not always do I think youre right.

Cheer up, smile.. Life aint that bad :)

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #121 on: March 06, 2016, 06:04:23 PM »
Not trying to be judgmental. Just commented about the Raspberry's. I think that mainstream orthodoxy do not use Raspberry's. Cmiiw!

Anyway, I guess the reason why it felt un-Lakewood-like has to with the high ratio of men wearing jeans to men wearing hats. (Not commenting on the woman c"v). Throw in the raspberries and I felt like I was on vacation somewhere. :)

Nothing wrong with it, I'm cool with it all. (Besides the bugs)

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #122 on: March 06, 2016, 06:23:13 PM »
I could tell you they have a lobster tank and you would shrug..
Wouldn't that be mayim sebikeilim and not yamim unchalim? :P ;)
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #123 on: March 06, 2016, 06:39:48 PM »
Wouldn't that be mayim sebikeilim and not yamim unchalim?;)
Lol

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #124 on: March 06, 2016, 07:13:24 PM »
Not trying to be judgmental. Just commented about the Raspberry's. I think that mainstream orthodoxy do not use Raspberry's. Cmiiw!

Anyway, I guess the reason why it felt un-Lakewood-like has to with the high ratio of men wearing jeans to men wearing hats. (Not commenting on the woman c"v). Throw in the raspberries and I felt like I was on vacation somewhere. :)

Nothing wrong with it, I'm cool with it all. (Besides the bugs)
Live and let live. Go hope no one in Lakewood buys them, and they will stop selling them.
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #125 on: March 06, 2016, 07:14:42 PM »
Is there any difference between selling unchecked strawberries and unchecked fresh herbs (e.g. Parsley, dill etc.)? Does NPGS sell those? How about fresh corn?
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #126 on: March 06, 2016, 07:24:54 PM »
Is there any difference between selling unchecked strawberries and unchecked fresh herbs (e.g. Parsley, dill etc.)? Does NPGS sell those? How about fresh corn?
+1 I think these belong in a different category than raspberries/blackberries.  Raspberries/blackberries are impossible to check while the above ones are very doable, just time consuming at best.  I consider myself machmir regarding bug checking, yet...yet I bought those exact Driscoll's strawberries at a Mexican market because they were HUGE.  At least after all my painstaking paring off the skin and cutting, I will be left with a piece of recognizable strawberry.

Checked out seasons .feels like five towns..
Anyway. The Mexican strawberies, Raspberry's and cauliflower is inexcusable.


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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #127 on: March 06, 2016, 07:30:29 PM »
How about Brussels sprouts, I've seen them all over, and never saw anyone that says it's OK.
Raspberry s and blackberry, there are ways it can be OK.

A whole bug is not kosher, a half a bug, no issue.
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #128 on: March 06, 2016, 07:32:20 PM »
Eta

Per the OU checking rasperries is indeed possible
https://oukosher.org/blog/consumer-kosher/checking-vegetables-for-insects/

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Re: Strawberries
« Reply #129 on: March 06, 2016, 07:32:58 PM »
I find it hard to believe a Rav would allow a Jew to do this. Perhaps there was something lost in transmission. If a goy owned the strawberries when they were ground then indeed the bugs that may have been there are batul. (That's why you can but smuckers etc) maybe this is what your Rav was referring to.
the rational behind this is based on a ta"z, Re"ma, and others who hold that if the reason you're downgrading the insects from berya to batul b'rov status is for any reason other than bitul itself (smoothies, ices, yogurt blends , gefilte fish) then ain mevatlin issur lechatchila does not apply.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #130 on: March 06, 2016, 07:34:04 PM »
Eta

Per the OU checking rasperries is indeed possible
https://oukosher.org/blog/consumer-kosher/checking-vegetables-for-insects/
funny that per ou policy they don't allow it in ou facilities

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #131 on: March 06, 2016, 07:35:41 PM »
How about Brussels sprouts, I've seen them all over, and never saw anyone that says it's OK.
Raspberry s and blackberry, there are ways it can be OK.

A while bug is not kosher, a half a bug, no issue.
I would put brussel sprouts in the same category as the berries.  How do you check those berries? 

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #132 on: March 06, 2016, 07:36:01 PM »
funny that per ou policy they don't allow it in ou facilities
Because it is very far fetched that the method would reveal no bugs.?


The OK method is just hilarious

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #133 on: March 06, 2016, 07:36:26 PM »
^^^

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #134 on: March 06, 2016, 07:37:16 PM »
every one of these hechsherim sells frozen berries. And frozen cauliflower and brocolli, etc.

So how they checking them in the plant? probably way more carefully than you do at home, yah?