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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #200 on: March 13, 2016, 08:42:23 AM »
This is all garbage. You cut off the leaves, and then look at it. If you don't see bugs, then that's it. The fact that you can see bugs with a microscope is not relevant.

To be machmir extra, you can also wash it.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #201 on: March 13, 2016, 08:43:58 AM »
This is all garbage. You cut off the leaves, and then look at it. If you don't see bugs, then that's it. The fact that you can see bugs with a microscope is not relevant.

To be machmir extra, you can also wash it.
Im not sure if your being sarcastic or if your also ignorant but there are stupid people that pasken from others opinions online.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #202 on: March 13, 2016, 08:45:29 AM »
This is all garbage. You cut off the leaves, and then look at it. If you don't see bugs, then that's it. The fact that you can see bugs with a microscope is not relevant.

To be machmir extra, you can also wash it.

Your not following the convo?
It's now about raspberries..

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #203 on: March 13, 2016, 08:47:45 AM »


I happen to agree that there should be some notification or something regarding certain produce items
But to make the jump that the agencies certifying these stores know nothing and we shouldn't eat their meat is ridiculous

But you do agree that the stores are negligent.

Bothers you that we are basically on the same page?  

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #204 on: March 13, 2016, 08:53:23 AM »
We should really change the thread title to:


"Should Jewish owned businesses, catering to the frum community, sell items that are not recommended for consumption by major kashrus organizations without a disclaimer?"

The follow up question would be:

Is this a sign that "the tone at the top" from management is not very encouraging from a kashrus perspective?

Also should be moved into GD.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #205 on: March 13, 2016, 08:59:17 AM »
Based on your logic, they shouldn't sell liver that wasn't kashered because some people might not know how.
Trolls will always post stupid replies

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #206 on: March 13, 2016, 09:05:17 AM »
Based on your logic, they shouldn't sell liver that wasn't kashered because some people might not know how.
I don't know of any kashrus organization which sells unkashured liver without a full disclaimer.
But at least liver is technically kasherable..

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #207 on: March 13, 2016, 09:10:44 AM »



But at least liver is technically kasherable..

There you go again. Stop insinuating that strawberries and raspberries aren't.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #208 on: March 13, 2016, 09:17:42 AM »
Nothing wrong with eating a half of a bug.

Just puree it

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #209 on: March 13, 2016, 09:37:02 AM »
Why do posters keep lumping the strawberries together with the rasberries? the strawberries are able to be cleaned according to many of the mainstream kashrus agencies. wheather to sell an item that many people will not end up cleaning with soap etc. is the issue there. The rasberries are an entirely different issue. they are not recommended bay almost all the major agencies and practically not able to be cleaned, hence the issue with stores who cater to kosher consumers selling them.....

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #210 on: March 13, 2016, 10:47:37 AM »
Im not sure if your being sarcastic or if your also ignorant but there are stupid people that pasken from others opinions online.

I'm "ignorant."  And I think I'm right, and I do what I'm advocating. 

Strawberries aren't like brussel sprouts that you can convince me there's something hiding behind the crevice where I can't see it.  There's no crevice. 

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #211 on: March 13, 2016, 10:50:06 AM »
I'm "ignorant."  And I think I'm right, and I do what I'm advocating. 

Strawberries aren't like brussel sprouts that you can convince me there's something hiding behind the crevice where I can't see it.  There's no crevice.
So this is your own conclusion, correct?

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #212 on: March 13, 2016, 10:50:55 AM »
I'm "ignorant."  And I think I'm right, and I do what I'm advocating. 

Strawberries aren't like brussel sprouts that you can convince me there's something hiding behind the crevice where I can't see it.  There's no crevice.
I've heard bugs hide behind the seeds. There are seed right?

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #213 on: March 13, 2016, 12:16:07 PM »
I've heard bugs hide behind the seeds. There are seed right?
they most definitely do. As soon as I figure out how to compress my video, I'll upload a video I took of a thrip appearing from behind a seed

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #214 on: March 13, 2016, 12:50:53 PM »
Nothing wrong with eating a half of a bug.

Just puree it
This is simply ignorant. It is just as assur to eat a half a bug as it is to eat an entire bug. The difference between them is only that there is malkos for an entire bug no matter the size while if it is not complete it will need to be a kezayis to be chayav malkos.

What you may be confusing is that an incomplete bug can sometimes be batel. That would not allow one to intentionally cut the bug for it to be batel. Also, it is not certain that pureeing the fruit will also cut the bug. What you may have heard in this regard is that one may puree and then rely on a sfek sfeka that maybe there was no bug and even if there is maybe it is cut up. There are times when one may even do this lichatchila but it is certainly not as simple as you are making it.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #215 on: March 13, 2016, 12:53:24 PM »
I happen to agree that there should be some notification or something regarding certain produce items
But to make the jump that the agencies certifying these stores know nothing and we shouldn't eat their meat is ridiculous
There is an agency certifying their produce?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #216 on: March 13, 2016, 01:10:38 PM »
So this is your own conclusion, correct?

yes.

I've heard bugs hide behind the seeds. There are seed right?

Ok, but then you should need to peel it, and most hashgachos are saying you don't need to.

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #217 on: March 13, 2016, 01:10:54 PM »
they most definitely do. As soon as I figure out how to compress my video, I'll upload a video I took of a thrip appearing from behind a seed

Let's see it.

ETA: ewwwwwwwww


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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #218 on: March 13, 2016, 01:16:34 PM »
yes.

Ok, but then you should need to peel it, and most hashgachos are saying you don't need to.
If there is access for the bug, who's to say that soap and water doesn't clean these crevices also?
Maybe bugs run out in water or something..

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #219 on: March 13, 2016, 01:18:55 PM »
Let's see it.

ETA: ewwwwwwwww

problem is all video sharing sites are blocked by me. So I need an app to compress the video (I think it will still be too large- even my screen shots are too large to upload to ddf)