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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #285 on: July 07, 2016, 09:25:10 AM »
Nobody just "permits" it.

The OU recommends a certain bedika. If this bedika is positive for bugs there is no cleaning process available. Supposedly this bedika will show infestation 99% of the time.

For this reason the OU doesn't allow rasperries and blackberries in facilities with their hechsher.
The OU permits it for jam
First of all please post your source. (Commercial may be a different process)

I guess you just say whatever keeps the argument flowing
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #286 on: July 07, 2016, 09:29:40 AM »
I guess you just say whatever keeps the argument flowing
Which argument?

Here is the OU
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #287 on: July 07, 2016, 09:32:32 AM »
Which argument?

First you say that OU 100% doesn't allow raspberries in any facilities.
Then someone says OU certifies jam.
They you say that commercial process may be different (and therefore OU can certify jam).

So which one is it?
Is OU against certifying raspberries 100% or only when its convenient to say that in an argument?
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #288 on: July 07, 2016, 09:33:16 AM »
First you say that OU 100% doesn't allow raspberries in any facilities.
Then someone says OU certifies jam.
They you say that commercial process may be different (and therefore OU can certify jam).

So which one is it?
Is OU against certifying raspberries 100% or only when its convenient to say that in an argument?

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #289 on: July 07, 2016, 09:35:12 AM »


context?
 
There must be at least 3 different fruits/veggies mentioned on the (cut off) left side.
Besides I see nothing here about OU banning raspberries 100% in their facilities.
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #290 on: July 07, 2016, 11:19:52 AM »
context?
 
There must be at least 3 different fruits/veggies mentioned on the (cut off) left side.
Besides I see nothing here about OU banning raspberries 100% in their facilities.
K heres the link.
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I said that OU does not allow rasperries in their facilities (restaurants caterer etc) due to the difficulty checking.

I also said that the commercial washing process is different.

Nothing to argue about

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #291 on: July 07, 2016, 11:38:22 AM »
interesting PDF of OU allowed and non-allowed produce in OU restaurants.
According to that document, blackberries, raspberries, and artichokes are not allowed in OU restaurants.

All the others on the list are allowed. (Interesting that they mention that pitted dates do not need to be checked. I have found worms in pitted dates.)
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #292 on: July 07, 2016, 11:47:20 AM »
K heres the link.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://ou.org.s3.amazonaws.com/images/files/BugBookFVchart11.pdf%3Ffile%3DBugBookFVchart11.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwj3i5uC0-HNAhXJXh4KHcedBQ0QFgg1MAg&usg=AFQjCNFMcrt7PX1GYhEGjsOD4IoP7OdzDQ&sig2=Em3tmAdWBPWw3V8NKpE-BA


I said that OU does not allow rasperries in their facilities (restaurants caterer etc) due to the difficulty checking.

I also said that the commercial washing process is different.

Nothing to argue about

you also said they are impossible to check
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #293 on: July 07, 2016, 12:02:33 PM »
interesting PDF of OU allowed and non-allowed produce in OU restaurants.
According to that document, blackberries, raspberries, and artichokes are not allowed in OU restaurants.

All the others on the list are allowed. (Interesting that they mention that pitted dates do not need to be checked. I have found worms in pitted dates.)
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #294 on: July 07, 2016, 12:08:15 PM »
K heres the link.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://ou.org.s3.amazonaws.com/images/files/BugBookFVchart11.pdf%3Ffile%3DBugBookFVchart11.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwj3i5uC0-HNAhXJXh4KHcedBQ0QFgg1MAg&usg=AFQjCNFMcrt7PX1GYhEGjsOD4IoP7OdzDQ&sig2=Em3tmAdWBPWw3V8NKpE-BA


I said that OU does not allow rasperries in their facilities (restaurants caterer etc) due to the difficulty checking.

I also said that the commercial washing process is different.

Nothing to argue about

facility
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That includes facilities that are providing commercial washing.
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #295 on: July 07, 2016, 12:14:23 PM »
you also said they are impossible to check

facility
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That includes facilities that are providing commercial washing.
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Talk about looking to argue

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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #296 on: July 07, 2016, 12:19:31 PM »
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so that means that they are lenient when it comes to dates, and that people have actually found worms, and the OU said that the pitted dates don't need to be checked?
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #297 on: July 07, 2016, 12:41:38 PM »
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Talk about looking to argue

Nah I understand what you mean now, but what you wrote before is literally contradictory.
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Re: Ban Strawberries
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Re: Ban Strawberries
« Reply #299 on: July 07, 2016, 01:10:00 PM »
I recall reading in there pasach book that they don't.

Why don't they sell frozen washed strawberries? Why only greenhouse.
the ou does. Kirkland frozen strawberries are certified by the ou. 6 lb bag for $8