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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #360 on: January 15, 2017, 12:10:31 AM »
Anyone building/buying apt in NYC

National grid and con ed will be very quick to lock/remove a meter. However, to get it back on takes a super long time.

No one is expecting that. When theres a naive tenant that thinks they smell gas and they call utility company (because thats what they hear theyre supposed to do) next thing they know they are without gas with no hope in turning back on for a long time...
Tenants dont buy apartments...

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #361 on: January 15, 2017, 12:33:04 AM »
Tenants dont buy apartments...

True, but my friends started their rent/lease in Brooklyn this fall and it took National Grid 3 weeks to do the transfer.
So newlyweds had no hot water or gas dryer for 3 weeks.

He was able to go to nearby men's Mikva for showers, but it was harder for her, to go to friend/neighbor each time, etc...
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #362 on: January 15, 2017, 01:11:06 PM »
True, but my friends started their rent/lease in Brooklyn this fall and it took National Grid 3 weeks to do the transfer.
So newlyweds had no hot water or gas dryer for 3 weeks.

He was able to go to nearby men's Mikva for showers, but it was harder for her, to go to friend/neighbor each time, etc...
Exactly my point. @ya was trying to justify the wait time by saying property owners/contractors should expect a wait time when building or applying for new meters. A lot of service is for existing service and the only ones really losing is the tenants (like your friend)

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #363 on: January 15, 2017, 01:52:11 PM »
Exactly my point. @ya was trying to justify the wait time by saying property owners/contractors should expect a wait time when building or applying for new meters. A lot of service is for existing service and the only ones really losing is the tenants (like your friend)
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The maximum time for a smooth switchover like that should be 24-48 hrs. It can be done from their office.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #364 on: January 15, 2017, 02:00:17 PM »
+1
The maximum time for a smooth switchover like that should be 24-48 hrs. It can be done from their office.
I discussed this on Friday with a friend who's a plumber. He told me that ever since some 2nd avenue explosion, the city has become a lot stricter with inspections, but they didn't increase their workforce for doing inspections.

If gas was shut off to a location for six months, you cannot have it turned on without doing a pressure inspection. So if it's an immediate switch of the account from one tenant to another, that should be smooth, the problem starts when there's a lengthy period with no service.

So in my friend's words, if they were bribing to get an inspection ahead of time, that would be somewhat OK under the circumstances, but hooking up gas after a period with no service, is a major safety issue, and bribing to get that done could be putting people's lives in danger.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #365 on: January 15, 2017, 02:02:09 PM »
I discussed this on Friday with a friend who's a plumber. He told me that ever since some 2nd avenue explosion, the city has become a lot stricter with inspections, but they didn't increase their workforce for doing inspections.

If gas was shut off to a location for six months, you cannot have it turned on without doing a pressure inspection. So if it's an immediate switch of the account from one tenant to another, that should be smooth, the problem starts when there's a lengthy period with no service.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #366 on: January 15, 2017, 02:38:15 PM »
Exactly my point. @ya was trying to justify the wait time by saying property owners/contractors should expect a wait time when building or applying for new meters. A lot of service is for existing service and the only ones really losing is the tenants (like your friend)

That's not what @ya was saying at all.
Some people are excusing breaking the law because National Grid is terrible at their job and it's hurting them financially. YA is saying that investors know about the red tape before investing, so it's no excuse to break the law. Dont make the investment if you need to break the law to make money.

No one here is saying that National Grid should make people wait months to turn on service.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #367 on: January 15, 2017, 02:49:41 PM »
That's not what @ya was saying at all.
Some people are excusing breaking the law because National Grid is terrible at their job and it's hurting them financially. YA is saying that investors know about the red tape before investing, so it's no excuse to break the law. Dont make the investment if you need to break the law to make money.

No one here is saying that National Grid should make people wait months to turn on service.
While National Grid is part of the problem, it seems like the City is the biggest problem, as they are understaffed and backlogged with the inspections.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #368 on: January 15, 2017, 03:43:19 PM »
That's not what @ya was saying at all.
Some people are excusing breaking the law because National Grid is terrible at their job and it's hurting them financially. YA is saying that investors know about the red tape before investing, so it's no excuse to break the law. Dont make the investment if you need to break the law to make money.

No one here is saying that National Grid should make people wait months to turn on service.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #369 on: June 26, 2017, 09:51:49 AM »
Looks like Lakewood was on the map this morning...

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #370 on: June 26, 2017, 10:00:19 AM »
Must be nuts these days to still make dreidlech.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #372 on: June 26, 2017, 10:30:42 AM »
No need to post article. For those that needed details Google is available.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #373 on: June 26, 2017, 10:32:43 AM »
Why are they looking at private school tuition records ?

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #374 on: June 26, 2017, 10:35:32 AM »
Why are they looking at private school tuition records ?

It's the FBI, they look at whatever the heck they want.
Obviously they're trying to figure out expenses to get a better picture of income.
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