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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #375 on: June 26, 2017, 10:40:47 AM »
It's the FBI, they look at whatever the heck they want.
Obviously they're trying to figure out expenses to get a better picture of income.
It sounds like they got it from the schools. CMIIW

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #376 on: June 26, 2017, 11:12:58 AM »
It sounds like they got it from the schools. CMIIW

I would assume so.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #377 on: June 26, 2017, 11:23:09 AM »
It's the FBI, they look at whatever the heck they want.
Obviously they're trying to figure out expenses to get a better picture of income.
or figure out who is paying their tuition for them....

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #378 on: June 26, 2017, 11:27:34 AM »
I would assume so.
Wouldn't the schools have to be involved in the crime for the Feds to go through their records ? Could they go through Walmart's computers if one of these people go shopping there ?

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #379 on: June 26, 2017, 11:32:53 AM »
Wouldn't the schools have to be involved in the crime for the Feds to go through their records ? Could they go through Walmart's computers if one of these people go shopping there ?
They can subpoena anywhere subject to court approval IINM
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #380 on: June 26, 2017, 11:33:04 AM »
It sounds like they got it from the schools. CMIIW

I heard a rumor about a school getting raided, but I don't think that's what happened.
According to the FBI complaint, a business they owned was paying out their tuition, and it's easy to get the bank statements.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #381 on: June 26, 2017, 11:36:49 AM »
No need to post article. For those that needed details Google is available.
Weren't you the one obsessed with not sweeping drugs/suicides under the rug?

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #382 on: June 26, 2017, 01:21:31 PM »
Weren't you the one obsessed with not sweeping drugs/suicides under the rug?
What does that have to do with anything? Its lashon hara or rechilus to post this article. Its the same to post specific information about drug overdoses and suicides. It was sufficient to post what was posted and if one wanted to search, as I did, the information was readily available. Im sorry you cant distinguish the two. Its not even a nuanced difference.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #383 on: June 26, 2017, 01:32:44 PM »
Why are they looking at private school tuition records ?

I think that they aren't stupid.... That's why....

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #384 on: June 26, 2017, 01:34:02 PM »
You can argue that this isn't even LH... vd"l
The LH is that they were caught.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #385 on: June 26, 2017, 01:36:24 PM »
I think that they aren't stupid.... That's why....
They can't just raid a school & walk off with their computers to check if X might have committed a crime. They had to have come upon it while investigating a crime.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #386 on: June 26, 2017, 01:38:25 PM »
They can't just raid a school & walk off with their computers to check if X might have committed a crime. They had to have come upon it while investigating a crime.

Or they suspected it and came up with some PC to obtain a warrant.  I'd be shocked if they didn't look into it.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #387 on: June 26, 2017, 01:41:29 PM »
They can't just raid a school & walk off with their computers to check if X might have committed a crime. They had to have come upon it while investigating a crime.
They can subpoena anywhere subject to court approval IINM
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #388 on: June 26, 2017, 01:42:25 PM »
Or they suspected it and came up with some PC to obtain a warrant.  I'd be shocked if they didn't look into it.
What yuneeq said makes the most sense.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #389 on: June 26, 2017, 01:43:48 PM »
What yuneeq said makes the most sense.

Schools don't just get raided.  A warrant would be needed regardless.  Whether the school was raided because of the investigation into the fraud or some other independent matter is pretty much irrelevant.