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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #340 on: January 14, 2017, 07:57:25 PM »
Anyone know the smallest thing about construction knows how awful the national grid thing is.  They always come 6 months late.  Hopefully this will bring some attention to this issue
#TYH

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #341 on: January 14, 2017, 08:00:17 PM »
2 wrongs don't make a right.
A landlord has no right to gamble with his tenants safety.
If I was a tenant I'd be furious.   

Imagine one of your relatives/friends who had a successful surgery, finds out later that the doctor was unlicensed. You'd be pissed no mater the outcome.
imagine one of your friends/relatives who had a successful organ transplant finds out later that the doctor took a "donation to the hospital" to get moved to the front of the line. I'm sure you'd be pissed no matter what the outcome.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #342 on: January 14, 2017, 08:38:18 PM »
imagine one of your friends/relatives who had a successful organ transplant finds out later that the doctor took a "donation to the hospital" to get moved to the front of the line. I'm sure you'd be pissed no matter what the outcome.
LOL!

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #343 on: January 14, 2017, 08:42:01 PM »
imagine one of your friends/relatives who had a successful organ transplant finds out later that the doctor took a "donation to the hospital" to get moved to the front of the line. I'm sure you'd be pissed no matter what the outcome.

imagine one of your friends/relatives was waiting for an organ transplant finds out later that the reason they are still waiting is because the doctor took a "donation to the hospital" from someone else to be moved ahead of them in line. I'm sure you'd be pissed no matter what the outcome.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #344 on: January 14, 2017, 10:32:39 PM »
imagine one of your friends/relatives was waiting for an organ transplant finds out later that the reason they are still waiting is because the doctor took a "donation to the hospital" from someone else to be moved ahead of them in line. I'm sure you'd be pissed no matter what the outcome.
correct but that was not similar to the argument he made. The argument your making is would be that youre gas meter installation got pushed off 9 months so someone else who paid could get theirs installed in 3 months this assuming it takes 3 months for national grid or con ed to install a meter which is reasonable if your union has a contract with a company that only allows you to order one bolt or nut at a time because that company slid money under the table to get con ed to accept their " lowest" bid

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #345 on: January 14, 2017, 10:39:15 PM »
This is key:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/nyregion/brooklyn-utility-national-grid-meter-scheme.html

"Inspectors with National Grid and the city’s Buildings Department checked the 33 locations involved in the investigation and concluded that the public’s safety was not at risk."

Basically all they did was try to expedite the criminally negligent city bureaucracy.
By breaking the law

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #346 on: January 14, 2017, 10:42:37 PM »
Anyone know the smallest thing about construction knows how awful the national grid thing is.  They always come 6 months late.  Hopefully this will bring some attention to this issue
That's the cost of doing business in NYC.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #347 on: January 14, 2017, 10:46:05 PM »
That's the cost of doing business in NYC.
Source ?

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #348 on: January 14, 2017, 10:47:53 PM »
By breaking the law
Judge jury and executioner. Have you ever done business to know what the cost of doing business is or should be in NY?
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #349 on: January 14, 2017, 10:49:40 PM »
Judge jury and executioner. Have you ever done business to know what the cost of doing business is or should be in NY?
I'm not saying it should be this way.  I'm just saying it is this way and they knew that before they purchased/built apt in NYC

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #350 on: January 14, 2017, 10:53:11 PM »
I'm not saying it should be this way.  I'm just saying it is this way and they knew that before they purchased/built apt in NYC
Nobody counts on being delayed because of red tape bureaucratic nonsense. There is a reasonable expectation that the city will cooperate.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #351 on: January 14, 2017, 10:54:06 PM »
Nobody counts on being delayed because of red tape bureaucratic nonsense. There is a reasonable expectation that the city will cooperate.
But they knew in advance it takes months.  It does for everyone and has been for a long time.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #352 on: January 14, 2017, 11:14:00 PM »
I'm not saying it should be this way.  I'm just saying it is this way and they knew that before they purchased/built apt in NYC
You obviously are not aware that there is other times you need a meter installation...

Did "they" also know this before they had the issue ??

Gas leaks, low hanging pipes, old meters etc...

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #353 on: January 14, 2017, 11:17:49 PM »
You obviously are not aware that there is other times you need a meter installation...

Did "they" also know this before they had the issue ??

Gas leaks, low hanging pipes, old meters etc...
I understand.  I wasn't taking specifically about this issue.  Everything in NYC takes time and during construction its expected that issues will arise.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #354 on: January 14, 2017, 11:21:57 PM »
I understand.  I wasn't taking specifically about this issue.  Everything in NYC takes time and during construction its expected that issues will arise.
National grid and con ed will be very quick to lock/remove a meter. However, to get it back on takes a super long time.

No one is expecting that. When theres a naive tenant that thinks they smell gas and they call utility company (because thats what they hear theyre supposed to do) next thing they know they are without gas with no hope in turning back on for a long time...

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #355 on: January 14, 2017, 11:22:44 PM »
National grid and con ed will be very quick to lock/remove a meter. However, to get it back on takes a super long time.

No one is expecting that. When theres a naive tenant that thinks they smell gas and they call utility company (because thats what they hear theyre supposed to do) next thing they know they are without gas with no hope in turning back on for a long time...
Correct and this is only known in advance.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #356 on: January 14, 2017, 11:23:52 PM »
Correct and this is only known in advance.
What are you saying?

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #357 on: January 14, 2017, 11:25:24 PM »
What are you saying?
That u know in advance it takes them a long time to do anything

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #358 on: January 14, 2017, 11:27:51 PM »
That u know in advance it takes them a long time to do anything
Who is "u"??

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #359 on: January 14, 2017, 11:32:57 PM »
Who is "u"??
Anyone building/buying apt in NYC