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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #420 on: June 27, 2017, 12:59:25 AM »
No. But many in the $100-200K range. Though I imagine that the fact that they made $1 million per year is probably what triggered a red flag.

From programs, you don't get to these numbers.

Are there school vouchers in Lakewood?

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #421 on: June 27, 2017, 09:00:31 AM »
Um -1

someone who was making 1 million a year and doing this is not a korbon...

My point is not that they are innocent (they're not). My point is that they were picked from a pool of many, many people. They got unlucky.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #422 on: June 27, 2017, 09:01:20 AM »
From programs, you don't get to these numbers.

Are there school vouchers in Lakewood?

I was referring to how much they earn regularly, and still tap into benefits. i.e. they make $200K per year, but still claim benefits.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #423 on: June 27, 2017, 09:07:09 AM »
I was referring to how much they earn regularly, and still tap into benefits. i.e. they make $200K per year, but still claim benefits.

In Brooklyn, making $200k a year with 10 kids, you're struggling...
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #424 on: June 27, 2017, 09:08:50 AM »
And they don't need to come prepared to make religious accommodations.
SOP and nothing to do with religion.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #425 on: June 27, 2017, 09:08:54 AM »
In Brooklyn, making $200k a year with 10 kids, you're struggling...

Crazy but true.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #426 on: June 27, 2017, 09:10:39 AM »
My point is not that they are innocent (they're not). My point is that they were picked from a pool of many, many people. They got unlucky.
Please give me some of what you are smoking.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #427 on: June 27, 2017, 09:13:37 AM »
Please give me some of what you are smoking.

lol, if only...

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #428 on: June 27, 2017, 09:17:58 AM »
My point is not that they are innocent (they're not). My point is that they were picked from a pool of many, many people. They got unlucky.
-1 million


I'm sure most people making 1 million a year aren't claiming section 8, food stamps and Medicaid
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #429 on: June 27, 2017, 09:20:36 AM »
-1 million


I'm sure most people making 1 million a year aren't claiming section 8, food stamps and Medicaid

He didn't say most and he didn't say $1M. There are a lot of people who play games (although not on that level).

The question is if they were targeted because of how much further than others they went

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #430 on: June 27, 2017, 09:42:04 AM »
Just heard the FBI is staging again in town. Wonder if they are just collecting documents...

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #431 on: June 27, 2017, 09:55:54 AM »
My point is not that they are innocent (they're not). My point is that they were picked from a pool of many, many people. They got unlucky.

It has nothing to do with luck.
The FBI leaves nothing to chance.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #432 on: June 27, 2017, 09:57:52 AM »
People calm down. You can see from the indictment that this happened many years ago.  They may have made mistakes, looks llike they went off of programs, but the FBI is still here to catch. It's not like they recently had these programs.
 

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #433 on: June 27, 2017, 10:00:23 AM »
People calm down. You can see from the indictment that this happened many years ago.  They may have made mistakes, looks llike they went off of programs, but the FBI is still here to catch. It's not like they recently had these programs.

Didn't they get off the programs after the investigation began?

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #434 on: June 27, 2017, 11:18:56 AM »
Didn't they get off the programs after the investigation began?

They did, but it was too late. The FBI already had them in the crosshairs and once they do they never let go. (unless your name is Hillary Clinton)

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #435 on: June 27, 2017, 11:43:58 AM »
They did, but it was too late. The FBI already had them in the crosshairs and once they do they never let go. (unless your name is Hillary Clinton)
that wasn't an investigation it was a matter
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #436 on: June 27, 2017, 12:02:03 PM »
that wasn't an investigation it was a matter
nothing burger.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #437 on: June 27, 2017, 02:11:16 PM »
They did, but it was too late. The FBI already had them in the crosshairs and once they do they never let go. (unless your name is Hillary Clinton)
It's like hitting the brakes when the cop saw you speeding. Rarely helps.

I think that we need more community awareness that govt programs is playing with fire. Don't think any of these guys are malicious just blissfully ignorant of the consequences.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #438 on: June 27, 2017, 02:24:05 PM »
It's like hitting the brakes when the cop saw you speeding. Rarely helps.

I think that we need more community awareness that govt programs is playing with fire. Don't think any of these guys are malicious just blissfully ignorant of the consequences.

Well yes and no. A cop just has to pull you over and give you a ticket. The FBI spent three years of agency time and taxpayer money building the case against these people AFTER they went off the programs.

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Don't think any of these guys are malicious just blissfully ignorant of the consequences

This +1000.

if I were to judge by internet comments, it would appear that these people are as bad as Hitler.


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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #439 on: June 27, 2017, 02:48:59 PM »
Can some explain what MSing is?