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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #460 on: June 27, 2017, 10:56:53 PM »
I wonder how many people are losing sleep tonight over this.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #461 on: June 27, 2017, 11:08:39 PM »
That's the whole point. Not sure you can blame them for being such achzurim, people become emotionally invested in whatever job they do.
The point is fur them to be afraid and stop before they are caught. That is not mean. It would be much meaner if they dragged people of in the middle of the night.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #462 on: June 27, 2017, 11:30:06 PM »
International news

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #463 on: June 27, 2017, 11:41:25 PM »
Yes it's a chillul hashem but I'm sure plenty of goyim are doing this too. Anti-semites!

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #464 on: June 27, 2017, 11:53:04 PM »
More arrested

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #468 on: June 28, 2017, 12:15:16 AM »
source?
whatsapp. 4 arrests.  Names & addresses posted. I guess story will post tomorrow somewhere if true.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #469 on: June 28, 2017, 06:11:55 AM »

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #470 on: June 28, 2017, 06:43:56 AM »
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #471 on: June 28, 2017, 07:30:43 AM »
whatsapp. 4 arrests.  Names & addresses posted. I guess story will post tomorrow somewhere if true.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #472 on: June 28, 2017, 07:44:18 AM »
What interests me is what specific laws were broken. As an outsider to this community, I always had the impression that "government shtick" skirted the line of what is/isn't legal but remained legal. Or at least that the perpetrators were confident it was legal. Anyone else or was my impression totally off? I guess that'll come out over time.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #473 on: June 28, 2017, 08:00:52 AM »
They expedited the arrests due to those reports
So they done for now?

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #474 on: June 28, 2017, 08:05:56 AM »
So they done for now?
According to the nj.com article more still before the end of the week.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #475 on: June 28, 2017, 08:14:20 AM »
What interests me is what specific laws were broken. As an outsider to this community, I always had the impression that "government shtick" skirted the line of what is/isn't legal but remained legal. Or at least that the perpetrators were confident it was legal. Anyone else or was my impression totally off? I guess that'll come out over time.

Seriously?

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #478 on: June 28, 2017, 08:56:34 AM »
What interests me is what specific laws were broken. As an outsider to this community, I always had the impression that "government shtick" skirted the line of what is/isn't legal but remained legal. Or at least that the perpetrators were confident it was legal. Anyone else or was my impression totally off? I guess that'll come out over time.

To clarify: claiming that you make below X income in order to take government benefits is unequivocally illegal.Doing it for many year across many programs, is very illegal. If you or someone you know has done this to the scale being reported now, I'd recommend speaking to an attorney before an arrest warrant comes to see if there's a way out.

 

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #479 on: June 28, 2017, 09:19:07 AM »
To clarify: claiming that you make below X income in order to take government benefits is unequivocally illegal.Doing it for many year across many programs, is very illegal. If you or someone you know has done this to the scale being reported now, I'd recommend speaking to an attorney before an arrest warrant comes to see if there's a way out.
I would say -1 but I'll give you benefit of the doubt that you meant "falsely" claiming. What I was referring to is stretching definitions of religious income, claiming your wife and baby mama of 8 is just your girlfriend, or putting things in other people's name's so it's not "your income". I thought legal vehicles were being abused. The surprise to me (and I don't live in Lakewood so maybe I was just naive) here is that even by the letter of the law there has been massive illegal activity apparently.