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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #720 on: June 29, 2017, 10:16:26 AM »
I agree so:
Biggest gap is probably tuition breaks, I dont think anyone is walking away with loaded pockets.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #721 on: June 29, 2017, 10:17:18 AM »
Then where is the money going?

Most don't play nicely with each other so don't share services or buying power which balloons cost.  Also, they are generally top heavy with expensive administrators and a lot of "charity" staff. 

Also, since so many people are on financial need scholarship (deserved or not), the full paying tuition is inflated to cover the cost of the people who don't pay.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #722 on: June 29, 2017, 10:19:06 AM »
It's not. If a Lakewood school charges 15K per person, they can assume an average of less than half that.
Yes, if the government for some strange reason decided to give the schools the exact amount they spent per public school child to private schools also then there would get a large excess.
Guess I wasn't understanding. Your saying public is more expensive per child? Forget about where the money is coming from.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #723 on: June 29, 2017, 10:20:28 AM »
...the full paying tuition is inflated to cover the cost of the people who don't pay.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #724 on: June 29, 2017, 10:20:39 AM »
Guess I wasn't understanding. Your saying public is more expensive per child? Forget about where the money is coming from.
Yes.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #725 on: June 29, 2017, 10:20:48 AM »
Bingo.  The reason why they don't file a 990.
They don't?

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #726 on: June 29, 2017, 10:21:52 AM »
They don't?

I only know one Yeshiva that files. The rest (boys and girls schools) claim the church exemption.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #727 on: June 29, 2017, 10:22:35 AM »
Most don't play nicely with each other so don't share services or buying power which balloons cost.  Also, they are generally top heavy with expensive administrators and a lot of "charity" staff. 

Also, since so many people are on financial need scholarship (deserved or not), the full paying tuition is inflated to cover the cost of the people who don't pay.
I would say that YMMV as far as admin and charity staff.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #729 on: June 29, 2017, 10:27:52 AM »
For 2014 NY and NJ ranked 1 and 4 on spending per child. NY came in at just over 20k.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #730 on: June 29, 2017, 10:28:53 AM »
Then where is the money going?
I work in a school. A. We're small, so the costs are not spread out. B. Most people get a huge break. C. Most people don't even pay that and just keep on coming up with excuses.

I could tell you that the salaries paid out are not large salaries, and I'm talking about everyone including the Adminastrator.

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FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #731 on: June 29, 2017, 10:29:08 AM »
For 2014 NY and NJ ranked 1 and 4 on spending per child. NY came in at just over 20k.

NYC Teachers are well paid and good benefits.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #732 on: June 29, 2017, 10:29:42 AM »
Ya think?
Per child tuition should be a real figure. The funds for those that can't pay full price need to come from other sources.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #733 on: June 29, 2017, 10:30:08 AM »
For 2014 NY and NJ ranked 1 and 4 on spending per child. NY came in at just over 20k.

The district I live in pays $8,847 per pupil.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #734 on: June 29, 2017, 10:31:24 AM »
The district I live in pays $8,847 per pupil.
...and your tuition is?
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #735 on: June 29, 2017, 10:32:58 AM »

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #736 on: June 29, 2017, 10:35:17 AM »
20k/child.
Just doesn't make sense.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #737 on: June 29, 2017, 10:37:16 AM »
Just doesn't make sense.

You can't compare my kids' school to the public schools.  It's a jewish prep school.  And is cheaper than the other private prep schools in the area. 

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #738 on: June 29, 2017, 10:37:21 AM »
...and your tuition is?
Prices and flexibility fluctuate depending on area and (not surprisingly) "right wing" vs "left wing" schools.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes and Businesses in Monsey and KJ
« Reply #739 on: June 29, 2017, 10:38:23 AM »
Just doesn't make sense.
You can't expect to understand with just the questions you are asking.