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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
« Reply #901 on: July 02, 2017, 03:30:56 PM »
Oh, can you explain what on earth leads you to suggest that a Jew would distribute such a poster?
Lack of female pictures.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
« Reply #902 on: July 02, 2017, 03:35:15 PM »
Lack of female pictures.
Ah, but the females are not the hated "Rabbiner"!

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
« Reply #903 on: July 02, 2017, 03:43:07 PM »
Lack of female pictures.
If you noticed, they also only showed the 3 men that have bushy beards.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
« Reply #904 on: July 02, 2017, 07:46:46 PM »
No mention by the APP who is heavily involved in reporting Lakewood news about the hate crime!
They finally reported it after it became national news
http://www.app.com/story/news/crime/2017/07/02/hate-group-spreads-anti-semitic-messages-through-lakewood/446994001/

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
« Reply #905 on: July 02, 2017, 08:13:41 PM »
They finally reported it after it became national news
http://www.app.com/story/news/crime/2017/07/02/hate-group-spreads-anti-semitic-messages-through-lakewood/446994001/
From this article "The Asbury Park Press has chosen not to run photographs of the flyers or banner due to the inflammatory nature of their content"

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
« Reply #906 on: July 02, 2017, 08:35:27 PM »
They finally reported it after it became national news
http://www.app.com/story/news/crime/2017/07/02/hate-group-spreads-anti-semitic-messages-through-lakewood/446994001/

Please.  They covered it promptly enough.  And I haven't seen it on any real national news.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
« Reply #907 on: July 02, 2017, 09:13:13 PM »
I wonder if there are any Anthropologists here, income used to be a very accepted nature. Some were rich by luck, mazal, or inherited. Then of course you had those that hustled, worked hard etc.. many were content to work hard, earn, save, build. Yes dishonesty and crooks always existed.

Ready capital and modern entertainment gave way to entitlement. The american dream is about the capacity to earn what you are willing and able to work for, not what you want.

Any ways, the details of this case aside, have you ever been confident in telling your friends / kids etc "im sorry but we cannot afford that now" and not be embarrassed ?

We need to be more honest with ourselves and friends / family members, the friend that is quick to drop their cc to pay the bill? maybe its not a millage grab, maybe they want you to see that everything is fine, yet they are loaded with 25k in cc debt paying 16%

I could go on forever, but we need to be honest about what kind of message we want to give off, are we ok with what we have and yet work hard to provide a good life, or do we need to live beyond our means because thats what everyone does.

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
« Reply #908 on: July 02, 2017, 09:34:05 PM »
I wonder if there are any Anthropologists here, income used to be a very accepted nature. Some were rich by luck, mazal, or inherited. Then of course you had those that hustled, worked hard etc.. many were content to work hard, earn, save, build. Yes dishonesty and crooks always existed.

Ready capital and modern entertainment gave way to entitlement. The american dream is about the capacity to earn what you are willing and able to work for, not what you want.

Any ways, the details of this case aside, have you ever been confident in telling your friends / kids etc "im sorry but we cannot afford that now" and not be embarrassed ?

We need to be more honest with ourselves and friends / family members, the friend that is quick to drop their cc to pay the bill? maybe its not a millage grab, maybe they want you to see that everything is fine, yet they are loaded with 25k in cc debt paying 16%

I could go on forever, but we need to be honest about what kind of message we want to give off, are we ok with what we have and yet work hard to provide a good life, or do we need to live beyond our means because thats what everyone does.
Is that really a problem specific to Jewish culture? Isn't that part of being middle class American?
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
« Reply #912 on: July 03, 2017, 06:44:48 AM »
http://hefkervelt.blogspot.com/2017/07/review-hafners-take.html?m=1
Is that what he wants? An investigation into all the illegal immigrants getting paid cash??? Is he serious?

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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
« Reply #913 on: July 03, 2017, 08:53:28 AM »
Is that what he wants? An investigation into all the illegal immigrants getting paid cash??? Is he serious?
Why would they need to investigate ALL immigrants being paid cash? They can start with the more egregious ones.

Or according to your logic, they should do it the same way must have investigated every Jew with an LLC.

There has been a long standing sentiment that all of the offices administering these programs have given preferential treatment to the illegal immigrants over the Orthodox Jews. I know someone whose wife spent part of her childhood in Mexico and speaks Spanish like a Mexican native. He has told me that since she started going to these offices speaking Spanish instead of English she has been treated much differently.

Yes, the illegals receive these programs for their children born here.
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Re: FBI Raids Orthodox Homes
« Reply #914 on: July 03, 2017, 08:59:04 AM »
Why would they need to investigate ALL immigrants being paid cash? They can start with the more egregious ones.

Or according to your logic, they should do it the same way must have investigated every Jew with an LLC.

There has been a long standing sentiment that all of the offices administering these programs have given preferential treatment to the illegal immigrants over the Orthodox Jews. I know someone whose wife spent part of her childhood in Mexico and speaks Spanish like a Mexican native. He has told me that since she started going to these offices speaking Spanish instead of English she has been treated much differently.

Yes, the illegals receive these programs for their children born here.
Missed my point. Where do you think that investigation will end???