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[Yehuda57]

Sharing soon if anyone has any quick edits
Where are my copy-editors @mevinyavin @Yehuda57 @lcm @biobook @etech0 @Joeymc @YitzyS @TimT @Joel @Euclid

Sorry I didn't suggest this in time
https://x.com/Squilled/status/1788581497902964961

[Dan]

Draft post, any comments?

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/curious-case-costa-cruises-kosher-group/

[jfish227]

Very well done! This deserves a boatload of attention

[baron]

which knew all of the group’s needed

[Euclid]

You should crop his screenshots, removing the bookmark bar. Doubt he wants everyone to see that.

[Chuchum Ainer]

Antisemitism.  One word, no hyphen

[Dan]

Antisemitism.  One word, no hyphen

This incorrect?
https://www.britannica.com/topic/anti-Semitism

[Chuchum Ainer]

Though it’s impossible to rule out that anti-Semitism didn’t play a role as well.

Double negative
Impossible to rule out antisemitism playing a role as well

[Chuchum Ainer]

This incorrect?
https://www.britannica.com/topic/anti-Semitism

https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/spelling-antisemitism

See also Britannica's linked researchers note

https://www.britannica.com/topic/anti-Semitism/additional-info#Researchers-Note

[Yehudaa]

My personal opinion, but I’d crop the screenshots of his Chase account and emails. I’d crop out the top of his browser and his bottom toolbar in the first one, as there’s no need to show the world his bookmarks and open tabs, and I’d crop all that and the left sidebar on the Yahoo screenshot, which shows unread emails, his various addresses, etc. No need for any of that, and people may make all sorts of judgements based on other things on all of those parts of the screen.

I don’t think any of that is relevant to the story at hand.

/.02

[Yehuda57]

No evidence (emails I guess) that they claimed the crew would not be willing to serve the kosher passengers? That was the key allegation.

I appreciate that he defends himself quite well, but if he made up the antisemitic stuff, that's a pretty bad look...

[Dan]

No evidence (emails I guess) that they claimed the crew would not be willing to serve the kosher passengers? That was the key allegation.

I appreciate that he defends himself quite well, but if he made up the antisemitic stuff, that's a pretty bad look...

He didn't claim that to me.
He said they said they would do kosher on their terms, not on his terms. No mashgiach access, etc.

I asked for more emails of that back and forth, but didn't get any. Should I point that out?

[Yehuda57]

He didn't claim that to me.
He said they said they would do kosher on their terms, not on his terms. No mashgiach access, etc.

I asked for more emails of that back and forth, but didn't get any. Should I point that out?

Did the Queens Jewish Link make it up, or did he claim that to them and now is walking it back?

[Chuchum Ainer]

He didn't claim that to me.
He said they said they would do kosher on their terms, not on his terms. No mashgiach access, etc.

I asked for more emails of that back and forth, but didn't get any. Should I point that out?

Your article leaves the impression that "on their terms" is like a details thing, not a fundamental change in the agreement.

[Dan]

Did the Queens Jewish Link make it up, or did he claim that to them and now is walking it back?

Which quote are you referring to?

[Dan]

Your article leaves the impression that "on their terms" is like a details thing, not a fundamental change in the agreement.

Added more detail.

[Yehuda57]

Which quote are you referring to?

"They were wrong. Days before the voyage was to begin, tour operator Yossi Zablocki received a curt message: The ship’s crew refuses to cooperate with the provision of kosher food for the Jewish passengers at any point in the trip. Nothing a frantic Zablocki could suggest would alter their stance. “We simply will not do this,” he was told."


And

"Not only would the crew refuse to dedicate any kosher sections of the kitchen, it said, but they also insisted that no kosher utensils or food with a kosher certification will be available on the ship. “The use of kosher china, pots, frying pans, etc. will not be allowed.” Anything kosher was in effect to be treated as forbidden on the ship. And no rabbi shall enter. "

[Dan]

"They were wrong. Days before the voyage was to begin, tour operator Yossi Zablocki received a curt message: The ship’s crew refuses to cooperate with the provision of kosher food for the Jewish passengers at any point in the trip. Nothing a frantic Zablocki could suggest would alter their stance. “We simply will not do this,” he was told."


And

"Not only would the crew refuse to dedicate any kosher sections of the kitchen, it said, but they also insisted that no kosher utensils or food with a kosher certification will be available on the ship. “The use of kosher china, pots, frying pans, etc. will not be allowed.” Anything kosher was in effect to be treated as forbidden on the ship. And no rabbi shall enter. "

I wrote that they wouldn't allow his kosher standards onboard. I asked for the quotes and didn't get it as of yet, so I didn't put it in.

Those paragraphs are not very well written, but I don't think those paragraphs imply they wouldn't serve kosher passengers?

But the gist of how I understood it is here:
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/curious-case-costa-cruises-kosher-group/#Kosher_problems_arise

[Yehuda57]

I wrote that they wouldn't allow his kosher standards onboard. I asked for the quotes and didn't get it as of yet, so I didn't put it in.

Those paragraphs are not very well written, but I don't think those paragraphs imply they wouldn't serve kosher passengers?

But the gist of how I understood it is here:
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/curious-case-costa-cruises-kosher-group/#Kosher_problems_arise

Right. I'm with you, but the QJL piece is definitely saying it was antisemitism. My question is whether they made that up themselves based on the same story you got from תרל"א Destinations, or whether Yossi told them that story.

[Dan]

Right. I'm with you, but the QJL piece is definitely saying it was antisemitism. My question is whether they made that up themselves based on the same story you got from תרל"א Destinations, or whether Yossi told them that story.

We had another conversation just now and Yossi clearly thinks its antisemitism. I've updated the DDMS draft post to better reflect that.