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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #76 on: March 31, 2016, 03:42:24 PM »
{{Citation needed}}
Oh please.
It flows out of every statement you've ever made, to give just a few examples:
1. your phone interview a few months ago (forget with who, was mentioned somewhere on the forums) in which you insisted that this whole business is " a win win situation" for both parties and so it's not going anywhere (which it clearly is-it's disappearing fast).
2. Your refusal, in the AMEX prediction thread, to acknowledge that churning is bad for the banks and that the fact that AMEX stopped if clearly reflects that.
(Is that thread even still here btw? Seems to have conveniently disappeared...)
3. Your sense of entitlement evident in your recent spat with AA on Twitter (in which, the loyal customer, was upset about how AA treated you after you flew for free from card points).

And countless others. It's only quite recently when you've begun to recognize the writing on the wall. Until now it's always been "when one thing closes, another opens", "that is the nature of this business", etc., a notion clearly not grounded in reality, as it's far worse now than it's ever been, and you now it.

I do hand it to you, however, that you do seem to have woken up in the past 2-3 months. Even AJK is discussing here about how disheartening the situation has become.

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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #77 on: March 31, 2016, 03:44:10 PM »
{{Citation needed}}
You know full well your opinions on how bad it is and how quickly it's getting worse have changed. You can just admit that you were wrong, that the backs don't like what you're doing, that you're not good customers, and well move on.

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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #78 on: March 31, 2016, 03:56:33 PM »
You know full well your opinions on how bad it is and how quickly it's getting worse have changed. You can just admit that you were wrong, that the backs don't like what you're doing, that you're not good customers, and well move on.
There's a world of difference between acknowledging that things are going downhill and saying that churning is good for banks. In fact, I struggle to understand the connection
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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #79 on: March 31, 2016, 03:57:47 PM »
Lol, I'm waiting for when Dan reveals who this troll is :)

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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #80 on: March 31, 2016, 04:06:03 PM »
With all the "makes sense" discussion here that it was indeed EK, I still don't believe it.

Why? Meshum Zeh Lu Uved Kachah.

It just makes no sense for the partner airline to decide how many miles is needed. If you know how these things work.

And the simple proof for that is that EK would never let AS charge less mileage than their own program if it was up to them. EK would require AS to charge YQ if it was up to them. (The same way BA does)

You want me to believe that CX told AS to charge 70k to HKG in F while CX charges 105?

And that EK made up one morning to change the award prices with giving AS prior notice or at least without letting AS give some notice to its members?

All and all Im talking this with a HUGE grain of salt.
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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #81 on: March 31, 2016, 04:15:20 PM »
Oh please.
It flows out of every statement you've ever made, to give just a few examples:
1. your phone interview a few months ago (forget with who, was mentioned somewhere on the forums) in which you insisted that this whole business is " a win win situation" for both parties and so it's not going anywhere (which it clearly is-it's disappearing fast).
2. Your refusal, in the AMEX prediction thread, to acknowledge that churning is bad for the banks and that the fact that AMEX stopped if clearly reflects that.
(Is that thread even still here btw? Seems to have conveniently disappeared...)
3. Your sense of entitlement evident in your recent spat with AA on Twitter (in which, the loyal customer, was upset about how AA treated you after you flew for free from card points).

And countless others. It's only quite recently when you've begun to recognize the writing on the wall. Until now it's always been "when one thing closes, another opens", "that is the nature of this business", etc., a notion clearly not grounded in reality, as it's far worse now than it's ever been, and you now it.

I do hand it to you, however, that you do seem to have woken up in the past 2-3 months. Even AJK is discussing here about how disheartening the situation has become.
Hi Aj3042. Good to see you're still foaming with anger.

1. Never said churning was a win-win-win, I said the mileage game was a win-win-win
2. {{Citation needed}}. I don't delete threads for no reason.
3. I didn't fly free. I used 156K miles+$1,800 and got nothing. No flights and no refund.
3a. Airlines have clearly decided that credit card customers are more valuable than regular non-premium flyers. They sell the miles to banks for billions of dollars and they haven't devalued those earnings. Earnings from regular coach flying have been sliced down to nothing as that isn't where the profit is made.

Go back to your hole now.
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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #82 on: March 31, 2016, 04:16:31 PM »
Hi Aj3042. Good to see you're still foaming with anger.

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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #83 on: March 31, 2016, 04:18:55 PM »
Oh please.
It flows out of every statement you've ever made, to give just a few examples:
1. your phone interview a few months ago (forget with who, was mentioned somewhere on the forums) in which you insisted that this whole business is " a win win situation" for both parties and so it's not going anywhere (which it clearly is-it's disappearing fast).
2. Your refusal, in the AMEX prediction thread, to acknowledge that churning is bad for the banks and that the fact that AMEX stopped if clearly reflects that.
(Is that thread even still here btw? Seems to have conveniently disappeared...)
3. Your sense of entitlement evident in your recent spat with AA on Twitter (in which, the loyal customer, was upset about how AA treated you after you flew for free from card points).

And countless others. It's only quite recently when you've begun to recognize the writing on the wall. Until now it's always been "when one thing closes, another opens", "that is the nature of this business", etc., a notion clearly not grounded in reality, as it's far worse now than it's ever been, and you now it.

I do hand it to you, however, that you do seem to have woken up in the past 2-3 months. Even AJK is discussing here about how disheartening the situation has become.

Don't be like that.  Nobody here comes to your work and starts criticizing you.  You choose to read/post on DDF, don't bite the hand that feeds you.

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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #84 on: March 31, 2016, 04:21:59 PM »

ROFL.
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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #85 on: March 31, 2016, 04:26:31 PM »


Hi Aj3042.

Should have figured it was him.

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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #86 on: March 31, 2016, 04:27:29 PM »
ROFL.
How do you figure these things out ?!
Old news. Hasn't changed his style one bit, and dropped a bunch of hints.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #87 on: March 31, 2016, 04:31:00 PM »
Wow. AJ is back. Lol.
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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #88 on: March 31, 2016, 04:31:07 PM »
Hi Aj3042. Good to see you're still foaming with anger.

1. Never said churning was a win-win-win, I said the mileage game was a win-win-win
2. {{Citation needed}}. I don't delete threads for no reason.
3. I didn't fly free. I used 156K miles+$1,800 and got nothing. No flights and no refund.
3a. Airlines have clearly decided that credit card customers are more valuable than regular non-premium flyers. They sell the miles to banks for billions of dollars and they haven't devalued those earnings. Earnings from regular coach flying have been sliced down to nothing as that isn't where the profit is made.

Go back to your hole now.
Hello! Long time no speak! I have to hand it to your detective work (though I think that this time it's simpler than people realize).
And yep still same person except I was even more expressive because I had even less of a "reputation" on the line.
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You can go ban this account now so you do t have to listen to someone who doesn't agree with you!

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Re: AS devaluation of EK redemptions
« Reply #89 on: March 31, 2016, 04:34:30 PM »
Lots of people here don't agree with my views on things. And yet they manage not to be trolls.
Catch you again the next time you get bored!
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