BERNIE SANDERS IS A RABID ANTI-SEMITE!

[aygart]

I don't care about if he's a liar. I care that he's influencing millions of American to be anti Israel.

whipeedoo!!!
He supported lighting menoros.

Do you realize how dangerous it is, that Boynie - who has a huge following, is spreading lies about Israel?


And you bring up a menorah lighting?

Lies or policies you disagree with?

Both (And I'm not only referring to the 10k deaths)

Soooooo

[Aaaron]

I don't care about if he's a liar. I care that he's influencing millions of American to be anti Israel.

Until you bring a source of his "lies" you're spreading the same type of BS propaganda you're accusing him of. Ironic.

[JTZ]

I don't care about if he's a liar. I care that he's influencing millions of American to be anti Israel.

So you have a problem with his policies, fair point.

[ExGingi]

So you have a problem with his policies, fair point.

The good thing about Sanders policies is that he's upfront about them. Unlikeall others שעושין מעשה זמרי ומבקשים שכר כפינחס.

[David Smith]

Sanders actually seems like a decent person. He's not as much of a lowlife or corrupt politician as the others. He just seems like a typical Jewish Bolshevik.

[sguitarist18]

Even telling the truth can be an utter lie sometimes. "'Israeli police shot two Palestinian civilians" would be an example. You could make the argument that it's technically true...but whoever is saying it has a clear agenda to twist the truth.

You've got a guy running for president who clearly believes the distorted perspective on Israel that has infected much of the world. And he's willing to say it out loud, which has it's pluses and minuses.

Sanders actually seems like a decent person. He's not as much of a lowlife or corrupt politician as the others. He just seems like a typical Jewish Bolshevik.

Yeah, even aside from the communism aspect, that didn't work out too well for Jews last time.

[Baruch]

Until you bring a source of his "lies" you're spreading the same type of BS propaganda you're accusing him of. Ironic.

Soooooo.

My point isn't his lies, it was never about his lies. Although his whole philosophy about Israel is based on lies, as sguitarist18 explained so eloquently above.

He actually did lie about Israel with the 10k remark.

But that was never my main issue with him.

He is saying things about Israel that no candidate ever said b4, in the history of the USA. And he has a huge following. He is very dangerous.

Why is this discussion about a minor point so meaningful?

Do you care about Israel?
Do you realize how dangerous this guy is?

[churnbabychurn]

The scary part is that there is a real possibility that this self conscious Jew will actually be the president.. - I mean if Hillary and cruz fail at the primaries for some reason.

[David Smith]

I don't even know how wrong Bernie Sanders is, from his background perspective.

 Today's J Street is yesterdays Zionists. The Zionists thought that as soon as we have our own country, be it Israel or Uruguay, people will stop hating us and we'll be a classic nation like all others. Today; they think as soon as we get Israel out of the way, modern society will accept us and anti semitism will stop.

As religious Jews, many of us believe that anti semitism is from hashem and is an inevitable part of golus. We won't be free from hatred until Mashiach comes.

However, from an atheist perspective (that ignores historical precedent), Mr Sanders and J Street may have a logically sound thought basis. I don't know if I would discredit him as an anti Semite, as much as disagree with the basis that brought him to his way of thinking.

(This difference in opinion comes up in many of the  controversial threads on DDF, BTW. I'm not going to point out any examples, but it puts many arguments in fascinating perspective.)

[aygart]

My point isn't his lies, it was never about his lies. Although his whole philosophy about Israel is based on lies, as sguitarist18 explained so eloquently above.

He actually did lie about Israel with the 10k remark.

But you wrote besides the 10k

[Baruch]

But you wrote besides the 10k

I meant that the whole attitude that Israel is at fault is a lie.
I really have no patience to argue about this with fellow Jews. Frankly, any Jew that doesn't realize that Israel is lied about all day and every day, literally makes me sick.
Bernie's positions are based on the above lies.

We're not on CNN now. Let's not get caught up about this minor point. My point isn't the lies, it was a minor point.

[ExGingi]

He just seems like a typical Jewish Bolshevik.

Wrong. The Bolshevik in this election is Clinton.

Sanders is a true socialist און ער מיינט דאס, נעבאך, מיט אן אמת.

[ual902]

I never ever heard a Jew ever say "I'm a son of Polish immigrants".

 Baaarf

[JTZ]

I never ever heard a Jew ever say "I'm a son of Polish immigrants".

At least he didn't lie. 

[ual902]

At least he didn't lie. 

Correct that was not a lie, but we all know what he REALLY meant by saying "I'm a son of Polish immigrants"

[JTZ]

Correct that was not a lie, but we all know what he REALLY meant by saying "I'm a son of Polish immigrants"

He has stated publically he is not particularly religious. Wasn't his wife raised Roman Catholic?

[JayR]

By saying that PM Netanyahu and the Israeli army have the right to defend themselves is great. And something both Sanders and Hillary agree on.

However, when you say that the PM is sometimes wrong then you're on a slippery slope by allowing one to take a subjective view, which could lead to denouncing the PM on other occasions.

Do you trust Netanyahu? Hillary does; Sanders doesn't.

[JayR]

Hitler was truthful.

No, I'm not comparing Sanders to Hitler; I'm just pointing out that truthful doesn't make one a good candidate unless the philosophies and positions that the candidate is truthful about and believes in are positions worth supporting.

Think you'll enjoy this: Godwin's Law


Not sure why you got so much heat from this guy:

All we need is someone to bring the Holocaust into the discussion and we hit a homerun!

You have no faith. I have read enough threads to know how these progress. Most would have thought Hitler would not have been brought into this discussion but you took care of that. 

When in reality, he brought it up first:

I am not disagreeing it is just this anti-Semite/self hating Jew stuff is getting old. Next he will be compared to Hitler. 

[JTZ]

However, when you say that the PM is sometimes wrong then you're on a slippery slope by allowing one to take a subjective view, which could lead to denouncing the PM on other occasions.

Following any leader blindly is never a good idea. I could give a classic example but I won't mention his name. 

[yuneeq]

Those sources misrepresent the context.  Look back at the transcript.

Also, they claim he "lied" about Israel bombing a hospital and leveling apartment complexes... Ummm, they did.  Maybe he could have been provided with more context but they're not lies.

You may want to find better sources than Breitbart lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie#Lying_by_omission